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Jon- I would agree with you. I think of these terminologies as terms
for typologies of the types of relations within the semiosic triad,
according to modal category. Since the Peircean semiosic triad [the
Sign] is dynamic and interactive, then, I don't see the functionality
of setting up seemingly rigid types.
Edwina
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On Thu 02/03/17 4:40 PM , Jon Awbrey jawb...@att.net sent:
Ben, List,
I think it was Herbert Simon who I first recall lumping
engineering under the heading of the “design sciences”
but I don't know if that usage was original with him.
Coincidentally, again, if you believe in such things,
I've been reviewing a number of old discussions on the
Peirce List in preparation for getting back to my study
of Peirce's 1870 Logic of Relatives and there are a few
places where the exchanges with Bernard Morand branched
off onto the classification of signs.
Here is the initial exchange:
http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Talk:Peirce%27s_1870_Logic_Of_Relatives#Discussion_Note_10
[1]
Bernard gives his Table of the “Ten Divisions of Signs” here:
http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Talk:Peirce%27s_1870_Logic_Of_Relatives#Discussion_Note_13
[2]
Most of you know this is not really my thing — I prefer
to think of these taxonomies or typologies as detailing
the “Aspects or Modes of Sign Functionality” as opposed
to mutually exclusive and exhaustive ontologies of signs.
So I just submit them FWIWTWIMC ...
Regards,
Jon
On 3/2/2017 3:15 PM, Benjamin Udell wrote:
> Jon S., list,
>
> I just remembered that Bernard Morand, now retired, of Institut
Universitaire de Technologie (France), Département
> Informatique, who used to be quite active on peirce-l, wrote a
book published in 2004 _Logique de la Conception: Figures
> de sémiotique générale d'après Charles S. Peirce _ [Logic of
Design: Illustrations of General Semiotic After Charles S.
> Peirce] http://www.iupui.edu/~arisbe/pastbooks.htm#morand [3] .
>
> In 2004 I had no idea that it was about design, I didn't know that
the French word _/conception/_ can simply mean
> "design." A few years ago I got him to agree to translate into
English its foreword which was available gratis online.
> The English translation of the foreword is at
>
http://www.iupui.edu/~arisbe/menu/library/aboutcsp/morand/conception-fwd.htm
[4]
> .
>
> He once provided us with this image of Peirce's diagram of the
three sign trichotomies:
>
http://lyris.ttu.edu/read/attachment/220287/2-2/moz-screenshot-1.jpg
[6]
> which now adorns the top of the Peirce Blog
http://csp3.blogspot.com/ [7]
>
> In his 2004 book, he makes an argument for the ordering of the ten
sign-trichotomies as:
> 3-2-1-4-10-9-8-7-6-5
>
> He discussed it at peirce-l in "Re: Symbol vs. iconized index"
2008-10-27 16:23:57
> http://lyris.ttu.edu/read/messages?id=2105468#2105468 [8]
>
> Here's a diagram that I made showing his view:
> http://lyris.ttu.edu/read/attachment/2111107/2/10ad3.GIF [9]
>
> Best, Ben
>
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