HELMUT >” The "Left" do not utter "nonsense" by saying that there are more than two genders, but they (the "Left") are merely liberal, by not wanting to forbid anybody defining their own special gender, like "lesbian, gay, trans, both, none, or between man and woman...", if they feel one of those suits better to them than either "male" or "female". A culture that presses on everybody one of two labels is rigid.”
The only duty we have is to respect one another. Most of us do not have a problem with people living out their personal preferences, so long as they respect others’ personal space. But people trying to foist “alternative” definitions into a culture and demand that they be observed are not liberal at all… they have an agenda and their demands are propaganda. HELMUT>”A rigid culture is more likely of starting a war than a liberal culture.” Many of us observing proceedings taking place in America would disagree. It is the Left in America that is agitating for war. They want to deny the Right their freedom of speech. They call anyone that they disagree with nazis. They want to deny a president that was democratically elected. Their fascism masquerading as antifascism is laughably transparent, and the violence of their Antifa reveals the mindboggling extent of their hypocrisy. History is repeating, and it is the Left that is at the center of it, fascism red in hammer and sickle. sj From: Helmut Raulien [mailto:h.raul...@gmx.de] Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 6:32 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca Cc: Stephen Jarosek; Daniel L Everett; Peirce-L Subject: Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain Edwina, Daniel, Stephen, List, I agree with Edwina. I think there are social and altruistic instincts, but they may be destroyed by a rigid culture, and replaced with other instincts, which are "if-then"- routines, such as egocentric, tribal, and warrior instincts. I think, that the nature of humans is usually good, in a liberal and equality-supporting culture. But there are also sleeping bad predispositions, which may be awakened in a bad environment, for the purpose of surviving there too. But of course, a human always has choices. The "Left" do not utter "nonsense" by saying that there are more than two genders, but they (the "Left") are merely liberal, by not wanting to forbid anybody defining their own special gender, like "lesbian, gay, trans, both, none, or between man and woman...", if they feel one of those suits better to them than either "male" or "female". A culture that presses on everybody one of two labels is rigid. A rigid culture is more likely of starting a war than a liberal culture. In a war situation, bad instincts are awakened, up to making psychopaths out of people. A psychiatrist visiting a continuous war zone in Congo has said, the psychopaths ratio in the population was 70%. The other 30% remain, because people still have brains and choices. All this may have to do with "brain wiring", ok, but not with cultural relativity, as "rigid", "liberal", "equality-supporting", and so on are universal terms. Best, Helmut 08. August 2018 um 14:41 Uhr "Edwina Taborsky" <tabor...@primus.ca> wrote: Interesting - but - if you see our species [homo sapiens] as a kind of 'black slate' so to speak - then, how do you explain the fact that the infant has to be socialized; i.e., our species is not born with innate knowledge and requires a long nurturance period. And our type of socialization requires language. So- how do you get away from the notion that the requirement for language is innate? Edwina On Wed 08/08/18 5:14 AM , Daniel L Everett danleveret...@gmail.com sent: https://www.press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/D/bo16611802.html https://ling.auf.net/lingbuzz/004132 Here are two recent works of mind on culture and cognition. I will be exploring these further in a specifically Peircean context in a book coming out next year from OUP. Dan Everett Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2018, at 06:12, Stephen Jarosek <sjaro...@iinet.net.au> wrote: List, here's an interesting article that resonates with ideas that I've touched on in this forum (culture, neural plasticity, scaffolding, bucket-of-bugs... no such thing as instinct, no such thing as a "blueprint" that wires the brain). I'm not sure whether the author would take it as far as I do, but definitely of direct semiotic/biosemiotic relevance: https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/08/06/what-if-people-from-different-cultu res-and-economic-backgrounds-have-different-brain-wiring/ Barrett's paper also got me thinking about a point that I've been mulling over recently... the importance of initial conditions (scaffolding in the context of chaos theory)... the idea that experiences can never occur in isolation (objectivity), but must build on prior experiences (subjectivity): "This leads to another significant implication-that childrearing and early childhood experiences are more important than we thought. Not only do early experiences shape our personality and values, they also create the wiring that will govern our perception of the world far into adulthood." Initial conditions are particularly important in the cultural relativism debate, for example, where the Left entertains nonsense about more than two genders. Initial conditions based on childhood AND the body that you inhabit lock you into a fairly narrow trajectory, with the implication that you cannot just wake up one morning to decide that you're a special snowflake in the wrong body, and that you need to change genders. sj ----------------------------- PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L but to l...@list.iupui.edu with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . ----------------------------- PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . 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