Jerry, Gary F,
Jerry, first, I would like to know why you -- or, for that matter, anyone
-- can speak for all list members on any matter? ("like everyone else on
this list")
Secondly, why speak of Peirce's normatives sciences of esthetics, ethics,
and logic as "exalted"? Who "exalts" them? What a strange expression to use
about these sciences.
Thirdly, Peirce's philosophical trivium (i.e., the normative sciences) has
hardly been neglected and, in fact, has been widely discussed in the
literature for almost a century now. While his logic as semeiotic has
perhaps been the *most *discussed -- and that to this day--, his ethics has
gotten considerable scholarly treatment for decades now, while his
esthetics is only recently being more fully explored. In short, there are
books and book chapters, monographs, and myriad published essays on the
normative sciences.
Finally, have you read the passage Gary F linked to? If not, that *might *be
helpful to you in answering your question. I wouldn't concentrate on the
James the Elder quote which is not, I don't believe, at all in itself why
GF posted the link and shouldn't be taken out of *that *context.
Best,
Gary R
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:55 PM Jerry Rhee <jerryr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gary F, list,
>
> I, like everyone else on this list I'm sure, am curious as to learn more
> about what you mean by this.
> Please elaborate, for we all stand in need of a clear explanation for why
> it is that a thing as exalted as Peirce's Trivium is merely being
> neglected, don't you agree?
>
> So please, tell us, "Why then had it not been put to its serious use?"
>
> With best wishes,
> Jerry R
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 12:39 PM <g...@gnusystems.ca> wrote:
>
>> Gary R, list,
>>
>> I just came across a piece of the reverse side of *Turning Signs* that
>> strikes me as relevant to the “ways in which Peirce's philosophical
>> trivium might help inform the aesthetics, ethics, and critical thinking of
>> the world as it emerges from the coronavirus pandemic” — and relevant in a
>> way that I don’t think has been discussed in this thread before. It’s only
>> a 3-to-5 minute read: http://www.gnusystems.ca/TS/snc.htm#x14 .
>>
>> Gary f.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gary Richmond <gary.richm...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* 13-Jun-20 16:04
>>
>> List,
>>
>> In a recent op-ed piece titled "The End of College as We Knew It" (
>> https://tinyurl.com/ybha8mhb), Frank Bruni reflects on something I've
>> been informally discussing with friends and colleagues now for years;
>> namely, that "A society without a grounding in ethics, self-reflection,
>> empathy and beauty is one that has lost its way” (Brian Rosenberg, recently
>> president
>> of Macalester College). It seems to me that this has happened in the United
>> States.
>>
>> It has long seemed to me that America today has largely abandoned what
>> might be called the normative trivium of aesthetics, ethics, and logic --
>> Peirce's three Normative Sciences, *not* the classical trivium (for
>> which see Sister Miriam Joseph
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Miriam_Joseph>'s 2002 book, *The
>> Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric*) that he
>> generalized to serve as the three branches of Logic as Semeiotic.
>>
>> This philosophical trivium points to the possible *application *of
>> Peirce's three Normative Sciences -- not their theoretical forms, but
>> rather their ordinary and potentially pragmatic guises as they appear in
>> life practice, including reflection and action upon what is beautiful in
>> art and nature, what is ethical in our behavior in the world, and how we
>> can apply 'critical commonsenseism' in our quotidian lives. Bruni writes: "We
>> need writers, philosophers, historians. They’ll be the ones to chart the
>> social, cultural and political challenges of this pandemic -- and of all
>> the other dynamics that have pushed the United States so harrowingly close
>> to the edge. In terms of restoring faith in the American project and
>> reseeding common ground, they’re beyond essential."
>>
>> Bruni's op-ed reflection came in part in response to a recent article by
>> Rosenberg in *The Chronicle of Higher Education*; see "How Should
>> Colleges Prepare for a Post-Pandemic World" (
>> https://www.chronicle.com/article/How-Should-Colleges-Prepare/248507).
>> Rosenberg writes: “If one were to invent a crisis uniquely and diabolically
>> designed to undermine the foundations of traditional colleges and
>> universities, it might look very much like the current global pandemic.” In
>> a similar vein, Professor Andrew Belbanco, president of the Teagle
>> Foundation which gives as its purpose promoting the liberal arts, writes:
>> “This
>> is not only a public health crisis and an economic crisis, though Lord
>> knows it’s both of those. It’s also a values crisis. It raises all kinds
>> of deep human questions: What are our responsibilities to other people?
>> Does representative democracy work? How do we get to a place where
>> something like bipartisanship could emerge again?”
>>
>> Commenting on the economic divide of the American university, Bruni notes
>> that "the already pronounced divide between richly endowed, largely
>> residential schools and more socioeconomically diverse ones that depend on
>> public funding grows wider as state and local governments face
>> unprecedented financial distress. A shrinking minority of students get a
>> boutique college experience. Then there’s everybody else." Gail Mellow,
>> former president of LaGuardia College of the City University of New York
>> (where I taught for decades before my retirement) is quoted as saying, “We
>> always knew that America was moving more and more toward very different
>> groups of people," to which Bruni adds, "that movement is only
>> accelerating."
>>
>> Confronting all this will undoubtedly be one of the great challenges that
>> America -- and for that matter, the world -- will have in the years and
>> decades to come. The question I pose is: Can Peirce's version of pragmatism
>> (or pragmaticism) -- which he also calls 'critical commonsenseism' --
>> creatively contribute to these enormous challenges? And, if so, how? And
>> are there ways in which Peirce's philosophical trivium might help inform
>> the aesthetics, ethics, and critical thinking of the world as it emerges
>> from the coronavirus pandemic? If so, how?
>>
>>
>>
>> [Note: I have Bcc'd this post to several former members of this forum, a
>> few members who rarely if ever post but who have stayed in contact with me
>> offlist, and a few friends and colleagues who have not been members but who
>> may have an interest in this topic. Those who are not current members of
>> the forum may send your thoughts on the topic off-list to me letting me
>> know if I have your permission to post them.]
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gary
>>
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