John, Auke, Jon, Gary F, list
Nice to see the acknowledgement on Peirce's pragmatism.
Exactly- the indexical function of the Sign grounds the
interpretation in reality - as Robert Marty's lattice so clearly
showed us, and prevents our wandering off into the purely imaginary
world-of-words.
Edwina
On Mon 03/08/20 12:17 PM , [email protected] sent:
Jon et al.,
The basic point of my post was that the interpreter of a sign can
keep its dynamic object “in view” only by means of the indexical
function of the sign, which connects it to actual experience.
Diagrammatic signs are not so good at that.
The relevance to John's original post, as i see it, is this: if
theorematic reasoning is only a mathematical procedure, it leaves out
the experiential element of Peirce's methodology and his pragmatism.
Mathematics is not a positive science, meaning that it involves no
actual experience (other than the experience of doing mathematics, in
which the universe of discourse is entirely imaginary). All positive
sciences (including phaneroscopy, logic and semiotic) deal with what
Peirce calls real relations as opposed to relations of reason (CP
1.365, for instance). A proposition in a positive science thus must
employ a genuine Index [1], as opposed to a degenerate index such as
‘the letters attached to a geometrical or other diagram’
(EP2:172).
Gary f.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Awbrey
Sent: 3-Aug-20 11:35
To: Peirce List
Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Pragma, Pragmata, Pragmatitude!
Dear Gary, All ...
I was obviously having a lot more fun with words in those days ...
sigh, good times ... the point of it all being I always see the
whole complex of meanings associated with the Greek root "pragma,
pragmata" through the more threadbare veil of the Latin "object".
That complex contains all the senses of aims, concerns, ends, goals,
intentional objects, and purposes we tend to express more obliquely
through the use of "object" to mean "objective". Still, the latter
use does have some currency in cybernetics, operations research, and
systems theory, so it's a handy sense to keep in mind.
Cf: Liddell & Scott
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry%3Dpra%3Dgma
[2]
Regards,
Jon
Links:
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[1] http://gnusystems.ca/TS/snm.htm#gndx
[2]
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry%3Dpra%3Dgma
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