THanks, Gary. I certainly agree that Peirce believed in what we would now call embodied cognition. Enactive cognition (which is related to older work by JJ Gibson and his “resonance theory” - which I also discuss in the forthcoming book) is a step further. I have given this a lot of thought. But it is still not clear to me how enactive cognition can make a place for thinking in signs.
Dan > On May 14, 2023, at 9:45 AM, <g...@gnusystems.ca> <g...@gnusystems.ca> wrote: > > Thanks for your comments, Dan. What I was trying to show, in a nutshell, is > that Peirce anticipated what is now called an “enactive” approach to > cognition, as defined by Varela here in Turning Signs > <https://gnusystems.ca/TS/mdl.htm#fncc>. I think it is obvious that this > approach is closely related to pragmatism and pragmaticism as a theory of > meaning. And I would guess that your forthcoming book will bring out the > linguistic aspects of this. > > I should mention, however, that the “enactive” approach emerged from > developments in neuroscience and cognitive psychology since Peirce’s time > (developments which were themselves anticipated by John Dewey). This might > seem to compromise Peirce’s insistence on keeping the sciences of logic and > psychology (and linguistics too) well separated. Yet he does devote some > parts of “Kaina Stoicheia” (which purports to be about “new elements” of > logic itself) to both psychology and linguistics. Maybe Peirce’s own > “unscientific” use of the term “logic” > <https://gnusystems.ca/TS/blr.htm#lognat> accounts for the discrepancy. > > Love, gary f. > > Coming from the ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg > > From: peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu <peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu> On > Behalf Of Dan Everett > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2023 10:44 AM > To: g...@gnusystems.ca > Cc: Peirce-L <PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu> > Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] nonlinear semiotics > > > Really excellent stuff, Gary. > > > > In training perception in the context of semiotics, in my forthcoming (2024) > Charles Peirce and the Philosophy of Linguistics, I discuss how culture plays > a role in learning new perceptual categories, looking at how Amazonian > hunter-gatherers learn to perceive 2-D images (photographs), going from being > unable to perceive much at all about them to seeing them clearly based on > evolving experience and discrimination. > > > > I like the interpretations you provide. > > > > Dan > > > > >> On May 13, 2023, at 10:27 AM, g...@gnusystems.ca <mailto:g...@gnusystems.ca> >> wrote: >> >> >> List, >> >> I’m attaching a PDF of the slideshow used in my “10-minute thesis” >> presentation last month to a Zoom session hosted by the Charles S. Peirce >> Society, in case there is further interest in it. My thesis was that >> “Peircean semiosis is a continuous nonlinear process involving recursive >> functions and (sometimes nested) feedback loops.” I illustrated this by >> mapping several Peirce texts onto diagrams representing the flow of “logical >> energy” (Peirce’s term in EP2:241, CP5.212). >> >> I should mention that my “thesis” was abstracted, as it were, from a close >> study of Peirce’s “Kaina Stoicheia >> <https://gnusystems.ca/KainaStoicheia.htm>” (c. 1901, despite the c.1904 >> date given in EP2:300). In this curious paper Peirce sets out to explain >> “the logic of mathematics,” but instead of doing that in the “mathematical >> style” exemplified by Euclid’s Elements, works it out in terms of logic as >> semiotic. (He does not use the term “semiotic”, however, nor does he refer >> to “triadic relations” in this paper.) He concludes by working out the >> metaphysical and cosmological implications of a logic based on this semiotic >> foundation. I think “Kaina Stoicheia” is worth a close look in its own >> right, beyond my “10-minute thesis,” if other list members are interested. >>
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