Gary, I did miss this one,, found it in a reply:
Guided phaneroscopic practice may be an approach worth exploring. But who shall be "the guide acting as a mentor"? Certainly Peirce didn't have one, and neither did you (I think) nor I. At the moment I wouldn't know how to begin to 'guide' someone in the core practice, but it's definitely something worth considering, and so I intend to. At one point in my life I was leading groups in guided meditation, but at the moment I don't see how that skill might transfer to guiding phaneroscopic practice. But it's definitely worth thinking about as, for one thing, I could definitely use a collaborator or two to help develop this project! --- 1 Attention meditation (aiming at typing the different contents of consciousness) in combination with semiotics might do the trick. As in, as I recall, Gary F's bird example. Suppose we sit and meditate with closed eyes just registering what passes on. We might hear the bussing of some heating or airco equipment. But we don't hear the equipment we hear the noise and only can decide on the correct source by going to look. And then the singing of a bird makes its entrance. We don't hear the bird but the singing. A proficient birdwatcher will not hear a bird but a specific type of bird. It is the distinction between symbol and legisign we are dealing with in these examples. We hear a legisign and have an accompanying symbol. (with an index towards the expected source involved, etc) 2 Eventually, when meditating with crossed legs, the bloodvessels will be compromised, giving rise to feelings of increasing uneasiness. And, in comes the desire to change position. The difference with 1 can be indicated by the two energetic interpretants: the mental (for 1) and the energetic (for 2). 3 If we change position, it is a response to the sign (dynamical interpretant response?). If we don't change it still can be counted as a dynamical interpretant, but it is not in the same sense a response, in my estimate. 4 I tried not move because Barendregt, the teacher, told that the pain would go eventually. And indeed, a distracting bird could sometimes do the trick. But sometimes I tried just to feel the pain, and that gave rise to the moment I experienced the pain to resolve in a series of impressions, as flashes of instantanious lightning devoid of any meaning. The first sign type? I think along these lines a phaneroscopic study can become a guided study. One has to do it for him/her self, but a guide can be made, if I am right. Auke
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