The use of the lattice of the ten classes of signs should bring a certain clarification to this kind of debate. Moreover, we have the chance to rely on examples of cries provided by Peirce himself: "a spontaneous cry," "a street cry" :
*"Third: A Rhematic Indexical Sinsign [e.g., a spontaneous cry] is *an* object of direct experience so far as it directs attention to an Object by which its presence is caused. It necessarily involves an Iconic Sinsign of a peculiar kind, yet is quite different since it brings the attention of the interpreter to the very Object denoted." (CP 2.256 ).* Concerning the cry of a child, the question is asked to any parent: "is this cry normal or not?". In the first case, it will be a replica of a Dicent Indexical Legisign: *"Sixth: A Dicent Indexical Legisign [e.g., a street cry] is any general type or law, however*, * established, which requires each instance of it to be really affected by its Object in such a manner as to furnish definite information concerning that Object. It must involve an Iconic Legisign to signify the information and a Rhematic Indexical Legisign to denote the subject of that information. Each Replica of it will be a Dicent Sinsign of a peculiar kind." (CP 2.260).* The law applied to this case, more or less well internalized by the parents (by previous and/or external collateral experience, possibly under theoretical knowledge acquired on the auditive characteristics of children's cries, including the Spatio-temporal contexts of the cries), will result in considering the heard cry as a Token of a Type instituted by the culture. If the characteristics of the cry and the contextual elements do not allow us to arrive at this result, we will consider the cry as non-normal (hence the idea of negation) and, therefore, possibly pathological (see, for example, Georges Canguilhem: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780942299595/the-normal-and-the-pathological ). >From an anthropological point of view, almost all parents are "bricoleurs" in the sense of Claude Lévy-Strauss. In contrast, pediatricians are "engineers" capable of encapsulating the Dicent Indexical Legisign by a pediatric theory's Dicent Symbol. (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure,_Sign,_and_Play_in_the_Discourse_of_the_Human_Sciences ) It is enough to refer to the lattice to visualize the encapsulations by presuppositions or involvements of the different signs that describe the semiotic logic at work in the lived experiences. Robert Marty Honorary Professor; Ph.D. Mathematics; Ph.D. Philosophy fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Marty *https://martyrobert.academia.edu/ <https://martyrobert.academia.edu/>* Le lun. 5 avr. 2021 à 04:54, John F. Sowa <[email protected]> a écrit : > I don't believe that Peirce could have written the passage below if he had > ever attended to a crying baby. The first scream at birth is a vehement > rejection of being banished from the paradise in the womb. > > For the initial stages, yes and no -- approvals and denials -- are the > infant's major assertions. For the first year, most of the infant's more > complex communications are by gestures. They include pointing, gimme, and > rejection as primary. Infants are able to learn simple sign language long > before they utter their first words. > > See the books and articles by David McNeill for more about the importance > of gestures as an essential component of language. It's a pity that Peirce > didn't have any close friends or relatives who used signed languages. They > are excellent examples of diagrammatic languages that can represent moving > three-dimensional patterns. > > . > > John > > ------------------------------- > > "Probably it will not be doubted that every child in its mental > development necessarily passes through a stage in which he has some ideas, > but yet has never recognised that an idea may be erroneous; and a stage > that every child necessarily passes through must have been formerly passed > through by the race in its adult development." > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > [email protected] . > ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message NOT to PEIRCE-L but to > [email protected] with UNSUBSCRIBE PEIRCE-L in the SUBJECT LINE of the > message and nothing in the body. More at > https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/help/user-signoff.html . > ► PEIRCE-L is owned by THE PEIRCE GROUP; moderated by Gary Richmond; and > co-managed by him and Ben Udell. >
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