Dear Adek RAS, Your comments is covering some of our interesting topics here. - English Skill - Salary Skill
The "dedengkot" Mr.Boyke, Mr. Budiman, Mr. ... There are a lot of names for him given by most of us. He he he heee.... Thank you for your precoius support, It meaningful a lot Indeed. You keep my spirit up.. Warmest Regards, Mira ________________________________ From: Ras <tumoran...@yahoo.com> To: pelaut@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 4:11:07 PM Subject: [pelaut] Re: Need Indonesian Officer & crews Dear all, You see folks...it is totally right what Mr Fajar said that those Indian or other Asian seafarer (e.q filipinos)get higher payslip than us and that irritating truth caused by 1 thing only: they speak (not so good either) English. So if you learn then practice your English..man..you'll end up raising your selling point as Indonesian seafarer to the market. For MR Fajar Yuliadi..thanks bud for the wages scale for tanker folks. anyone want to share about bulk carrier or cargo/container vessels wages scale? or small vessel like ocean going tug,crewboat etc. RAS --- In pelaut@yahoogroups.com, Fajar Yuliadi <fajaryuli...@...> wrote: > > Dear Mr.Budiman and Ms.Mira > > After sometime I wrote a comment for Capt.Ahmad Yaman M.Mar about english I >got > > big surprise,wow...I meant WOW the feed back just so amazing!! In fact > somebody > > out there very well in english,both written and spoken.Like say Mr.Muji 36 > and > Mr.Momod Cilegon,even our "dedengkot" Mr.Budiman also felt irritatingto write > a > > comment.Means the green lightwas ON for you Ms.Mira.So go aheadwith your > progress to help improving english for our seamen friends. > Thank's God we have Mr.Budiman whose inisiate and create this website and > Ms.Mira whose taking care of us with patient for our bright future. > > > Di paragraph kedua ini saya pakai bahasa Indonesia saja,mohon maaf > buat > pak Budiman dan mbak Mira,saya jadi ikut-ikutan gatal ingin menulis setelah > ada > > crewing agency yang menemukan ship owner baru dan menanyakan WAGES SCALE buat > Indonesian seamen. > Ini khabar yang bagus,berarti pelaut-pelaut kita sudah mulai di kenal lebih >luas > > lagi dan diakui eksistensinya.Seperti yang kita ketahui pelaut Indonesia ini > berjuang sendiri untuk mencari kerja and survive. > Bersyukurlah kita semua kemudian ada pak Budiman yang membuat milis khusus > pelaut,dimana pelaut bisa menyampaikan uneg-unegnya,sharing apa saja baik > kesuksesannya maupun pahitnya kehidupan pelaut,dan ini kita rasakan sangat >besar > > sekali manfaatnya. > > Back to the point,mengenai wages scale yang saya ketahui untuk kapal > tanker asing( kebetulan karena saya tankerman ) dapat saya kategorikan > menjadi > dua bagian yaitu yang beroperasi di Indonesian Waters dan Foreign Going/Ocean > Going vsls sbb : > > > RANKS INDONESIAN WATERS > FOREIGN GOING > > Wages Range > > Wages > > Range > > Master.....C/E USD 6500.....8000 > USD >8000.......12000 > > C/O....2/E USD 4500....6000 > USD >6500.......8500 > > 2/O.....3/E USD 2500....3000 > USD > 4200......5000 > > 3/O.....4/E USD 1800....2200 > USD > 2500......3000 > > Electrician USD 2000....2500 > USD > 2800......4200 > > Bosun....P/Man USD 1100....1300 > USD 1300......1800 > > AB......Oiler USD 800......1000 > USD >1100.....1600 > > OS.......Wiper USD 500......650 > USD 700......900 > > Cook USD 800.....1000 > USD >1200....1600 > > Messboy USD 550.....700 > USD >800.....1000 > > > Gaji-gaji diatas berdasarkan observasi saya selama di kapal dan campur > dengan orang-orang asing.Yang jadi cerminan dan patokan saya adalah > pelaut-pelaut India,karena dari hasil pengamatan saya untuk 3rd World Country >di > > kawasan Asia menurut saya yang tertinggi standard gajinya adalah India. > Pernah saya sedikit berdebat dengan ship manager representative dan > kapten waktu itu gara-gara gaji yang berbeda,alasan klasiknya katanya > 'Because > Indonesian spending less than Indian'.But this is doesn't matter and no >relation > > between spending less or more,in fact we do the same job and we have same > responsibility on board the ship. > Saya berharap kawan-kawan yang bekerja di kapal cargo ( bulk and container ), > Gas Carrier and Offshore Vessel juga mau menambah masukkan tentang data gaji > buat pelaut kita agar para crewing agency lebih tahu dan punya patokan > stadard > buat kita para pelaut. > Sekali lagi ingat kita dukung usaha mbak Mira dalam meningkatkan bahasa > inggris > > karena tujuan akhirnya untuk kita sendiri,dengan skill yang bertambah > otomatis > SELLING POINT kita juga jadi lebih tinggi. > Ouch....I'm gettin' old already,and make all of you boring to read my > story,I'm so sorry...but like wise man said CAN WE? > YES WE CAN,ABSOLUTELY !! Bravo Indonesian seamen,bravo too for Mr.Budiman and > Ms.Mira > > > > Brgds, > > > > Fajar,on board Maersk Tankers. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Adicipta Bangun Mandiri <abm-im...@...> > To: pelaut@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 7:37:13 PM > Subject: [pelaut] Need Indonesian Officer & crews > > > To ALL INDONESIAN Seafarer's > > Excellent news. > > Our New EU Principals need Indonesian Officers and Crews, which requested > as follow: > > QUOTE: > > Dear Sir, > > Would you please supply indicative wage rates for Master, Chief Engineer, > Abs and Oilers, suitably qualified for a small coastal ferry <500GT and > <3000Kw power? > > Regds, > ------- > UNQUOTE: > > Untuk yang berminat Join dan berpengalaman di High Speed Crewboat/ > Ferries.......! > > Mohon Cantumkan Gaji yang di-inginkan untuk masing-masing jabatan dan > durasi kontrak. > > Operation: Spain, German, Denmark, Morroco > > Thanks, > > Warmest regards, > haidir al'afanie > Managing Director > > ABM & Circle Navigation > Lingga Darma Building, 1st Floor > Jl. Raya Warung Buncit No. 17 > Jakarta 12550 INDONESIA > Tel: (021) 7800 167/ 4393 0637 > Fax:(021) 7883 4339/ 4393 5341 > Email: i...@... > Emergency: abm-im...@... > Website: http://www.abm-circlenav.co.id > > Operations-Crew: > Jl. Kebon Bawang VII No. 21 Tanjung Priok Jakarta Utara 14230 > Tel/Fax: (021) 4393 0637/ 43935341 > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Moderator tdk bertanggung jawab atas kebenaran isi dan/atau identitas asli pengirim berita. ATTACHMENT akan dibanned, krmkan ke pelaut-owner atau upload ke FILE. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pelaut/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pelaut/join (Yahoo! 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