Pada Sen, 02 Agt 2010 17:52 WIB Mira menulis:
>Dear Adek RAS, > >Your comments is covering some of our interesting topics here. >- English Skill >- Salary Skill > >The "dedengkot" Mr.Boyke, Mr. Budiman, Mr. ... >There are a lot of names for him given by most of us. He he he heee.... > >Thank you for your precoius support, It meaningful a lot Indeed. You keep my >spirit up.. > > >Warmest Regards, >Mira > > > > > > > >________________________________ >From: Ras <tumoran...@yahoo.com> >To: pelaut@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 4:11:07 PM >Subject: [pelaut] Re: Need Indonesian Officer & crews > > >Dear all, > >You see folks...it is totally right what Mr Fajar said that those Indian or >other Asian seafarer (e.q filipinos)get higher payslip than us and that >irritating truth caused by 1 thing only: they speak (not so good either) >English. > >So if you learn then practice your English..man..you'll end up raising your >selling point as Indonesian seafarer to the market. > >For MR Fajar Yuliadi..thanks bud for the wages scale for tanker folks. >anyone want to share about bulk carrier or cargo/container vessels wages >scale? >or small vessel like ocean going tug,crewboat etc. > >RAS > >--- In pelaut@yahoogroups.com, Fajar Yuliadi <fajaryuli...@...> wrote: >> >> Dear Mr.Budiman and Ms.Mira >> >> After sometime I wrote a comment for Capt.Ahmad Yaman M.Mar about english I >>got >> >> big surprise,wow...I meant WOW the feed back just so amazing!! In fact >> somebody >> >> out there very well in english,both written and spoken.Like say Mr.Muji 36 >> and > >> Mr.Momod Cilegon,even our "dedengkot" Mr.Budiman also felt irritatingto >> write a >> >> comment.Means the green lightwas ON for you Ms.Mira.So go aheadwith your >> progress to help improving english for our seamen friends. >> Thank's God we have Mr.Budiman whose inisiate and create this website and >> Ms.Mira whose taking care of us with patient for our bright future. >> >> >> Di paragraph kedua ini saya pakai bahasa Indonesia saja,mohon maaf >> buat > >> pak Budiman dan mbak Mira,saya jadi ikut-ikutan gatal ingin menulis setelah >> ada >> >> crewing agency yang menemukan ship owner baru dan menanyakan WAGES SCALE >> buat >> Indonesian seamen. >> Ini khabar yang bagus,berarti pelaut-pelaut kita sudah mulai di kenal lebih >>luas >> >> lagi dan diakui eksistensinya.Seperti yang kita ketahui pelaut Indonesia ini >> berjuang sendiri untuk mencari kerja and survive. >> Bersyukurlah kita semua kemudian ada pak Budiman yang membuat milis khusus >> pelaut,dimana pelaut bisa menyampaikan uneg-unegnya,sharing apa saja baik >> kesuksesannya maupun pahitnya kehidupan pelaut,dan ini kita rasakan sangat >>besar >> >> sekali manfaatnya. >> >> Back to the point,mengenai wages scale yang saya ketahui untuk kapal >> tanker asing( kebetulan karena saya tankerman ) dapat saya kategorikan >> menjadi > >> dua bagian yaitu yang beroperasi di Indonesian Waters dan Foreign >> Going/Ocean >> Going vsls sbb : >> >> >> RANKS INDONESIAN WATERS >> FOREIGN GOING >> >> Wages Range >> >> Wages >> >> Range >> >> Master.....C/E USD 6500.....8000 >> USD >>8000.......12000 >> >> C/O....2/E USD 4500....6000 >> USD >>6500.......8500 >> >> 2/O.....3/E USD 2500....3000 >> USD >> 4200......5000 >> >> 3/O.....4/E USD 1800....2200 >> USD >> 2500......3000 >> >> Electrician USD 2000....2500 >> USD >> 2800......4200 >> >> Bosun....P/Man USD 1100....1300 >> USD 1300......1800 >> >> AB......Oiler USD 800......1000 >> USD >>1100.....1600 >> >> OS.......Wiper USD 500......650 >> USD >700......900 >> >> Cook USD 800.....1000 >> USD >>1200....1600 >> >> Messboy USD 550.....700 >> USD >>800.....1000 >> >> >> Gaji-gaji diatas berdasarkan observasi saya selama di kapal dan >> campur >> dengan orang-orang asing.Yang jadi cerminan dan patokan saya adalah >> pelaut-pelaut India,karena dari hasil pengamatan saya untuk 3rd World >> Country >>di >> >> kawasan Asia menurut saya yang tertinggi standard gajinya adalah India. >> Pernah saya sedikit berdebat dengan ship manager representative dan >> kapten waktu itu gara-gara gaji yang berbeda,alasan klasiknya katanya >> 'Because > >> Indonesian spending less than Indian'.But this is doesn't matter and no >>relation >> >> between spending less or more,in fact we do the same job and we have same >> responsibility on board the ship. >> Saya berharap kawan-kawan yang bekerja di kapal cargo ( bulk and container >> ), >> Gas Carrier and Offshore Vessel juga mau menambah masukkan tentang data gaji >> buat pelaut kita agar para crewing agency lebih tahu dan punya patokan >> stadard > >> buat kita para pelaut. >> Sekali lagi ingat kita dukung usaha mbak Mira dalam meningkatkan bahasa >> inggris >> >> karena tujuan akhirnya untuk kita sendiri,dengan skill yang bertambah >> otomatis > >> SELLING POINT kita juga jadi lebih tinggi. >> Ouch....I'm gettin' old already,and make all of you boring to read my >> story,I'm so sorry...but like wise man said CAN WE? >> YES WE CAN,ABSOLUTELY !! Bravo Indonesian seamen,bravo too for Mr.Budiman >> and >> Ms.Mira >> >> >> >> Brgds, >> >> >> >> Fajar,on board Maersk Tankers. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Adicipta Bangun Mandiri <abm-im...@...> >> To: pelaut@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 7:37:13 PM >> Subject: [pelaut] Need Indonesian Officer & crews >> >> >> To ALL INDONESIAN Seafarer's >> >> Excellent news. >> >> Our New EU Principals need Indonesian Officers and Crews, which requested >> as follow: >> >> QUOTE: >> >> Dear Sir, >> >> Would you please supply indicative wage rates for Master, Chief Engineer, >> Abs and Oilers, suitably qualified for a small coastal ferry <500GT and >> <3000Kw power? >> >> Regds, >> ------- >> UNQUOTE: >> >> Untuk yang berminat Join dan berpengalaman di High Speed Crewboat/ >> Ferries.......! >> >> Mohon Cantumkan Gaji yang di-inginkan untuk masing-masing jabatan dan >> durasi kontrak. >> >> Operation: Spain, German, Denmark, Morroco >> >> Thanks, >> >> Warmest regards, >> haidir al'afanie >> Managing Director >> >> ABM & Circle Navigation >> Lingga Darma Building, 1st Floor >> Jl. Raya Warung Buncit No. 17 >> Jakarta 12550 INDONESIA >> Tel: (021) 7800 167/ 4393 0637 >> Fax:(021) 7883 4339/ 4393 5341 >> Email: i...@... >> Emergency: abm-im...@... >> Website: http://www.abm-circlenav.co.id >> >> Operations-Crew: >> Jl. Kebon Bawang VII No. 21 Tanjung Priok Jakarta Utara 14230 >> Tel/Fax: (021) 4393 0637/ 43935341 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Moderator tdk bertanggung jawab atas kebenaran isi dan/atau identitas asli pengirim berita. ATTACHMENT akan dibanned, krmkan ke pelaut-owner atau upload ke FILE. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pelaut/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pelaut/join (Yahoo! 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