Rod gives us his clear logic: >The labour theory of value is dead simple. Here it is in seven easy steps. steps 1-3 deleted >4. Society is infested with parasites (capitalists, landlords, clergy, >university professors) who suck off the cream without contributing. >Therefore society must produce a surplus above what is needed to >reproduce itself. steps 5-7 deleted. i could comment on the others but this one has major problems. like all simplifications the qualifications begin. the need to produce a surplus is not a therefore following the statement that society is infested with parasites (cappos, landlords or unproductive labour (in the marxian sense)). in a simple socialist (parasite free) two sector economy producing consumption and capital goods, the workers in the consumption goods sector _have to_ produce a surplus if the capital goods sector workers are to eat! if parasites, then surplus is a false logic and does not fit into the LTV. kind regards bill #### ## William F. Mitchell ####### #### Head of Economics Department ################# University of Newcastle #################### New South Wales, Australia ###################* E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ################### Phone: +61 49 215065 ##### ## ### +61 49 215027 Fax: +61 49 216919 ## WWW Home Page: http://econ-www.newcastle.edu.au/~bill/billyhp.html