Gil has "one minor comment" on what I said about the Okishio theorem 
vs. Marx: >>Marx phrased his argument under the assumption that the 
rate of surplus value is held constant, but I don't read him positing 
this as the economically relevant condition--rather it's a 
simplifying assumption stipulated as a point of departure. <<

I guess it depends on what one means by "economically relevant", 
no? Laibman, e.g., sees the constant RSV as an assumption of a 
certain kind of truce in the class struggle ("class struggle 
neutrality").

>> The economically relevant condition on wages would have to be 
supplied by a separate story about the impact of technical changes on 
labor market outcomes. ...<<

BTW, I'm one of those wierd ducks who (unlike the majority of the 
Okishio literature) thinks that the capitalist accumulation process 
involves more than mere technical change: it also involves investment 
in fixed capital, which can have a positive impact on the demand for 
labor-power just as labor-power-saving technical and institutional 
change lowers the demand for labor-power. 
(apologies to the fowl in the audience....)

>> In a recent paper to which Jim refers (still in submission limbo), 
I establish market conditions --something like a stationary-state 
competitive equilibrium in a dynamic market--which support this 
(constant RSV) assumption.<<

This can make sense as a secular tendency, though as Marx points out 
the RSV tends to fluctuate with the cycle (countercyclically). This 
tendency is not being realized these days, as the RSV seems to be 
rising. Also, the story becomes much more complicated if one brings 
in considerations of unproductive labor. The Okishio theorem 
abstracts from the spending of profits on the wages of unproductive 
labor.  

BTW, it is easy to reconcile a constant RSV, which entails wages 
rising with productivity, with notions of immiseration: capitalist 
accumulation, by changing the social conditions of consumption, 
increases working-class needs. It's possible, though not necessarily 
true, that needs outstrip real wages, implying immiseration. With 
constant real wages (Okishio's assumption), this immiseration is 
guaranteed. Put another way, capitalist accumulation, by creating new 
needs creates a pressure which encourages workers to struggle to 
break Okishio's assumption. This is another way that the dynamics of  
capitalist accumulation militates against Okishio's assumption.

I also agree with critics that comparative statics exercises such as 
Okishio's have very limited use, especially given the assumption that 
there are no realization crises and of a neoclassical kind of 
competition.

In fact, I don't find the Okishio theorem surprising at all.  In a 
simple single-sector model with no depreciation, the rate of profit 
is r = (1 - w/q)y  where q is output per worker and y is output per 
unit of means of production. If w is constant and q rises (as Okishio 
assumes) then r rises.  There are some details in Okishio that are 
vaguely interesting, but the main story can be seen in this formula.

-- Jim Devine 

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