Thanks to the several people who expressed interest in Falling Rate of Profit issues. Looks like there is a FROP closet out there. Another way to look at what myself and, I think Andrew have been trying to say about Okishio is that discussing FROP is legal between consenting adults. It's what happens, it's what Marx says, and its theoretically consistent. Once you know that, the heavy math is unnecessary. To be more precise, math comes in after the numbers, not before. So, just do it. Alan Freeman