Two minor points to Jim Devine's post on FROP: Marx makes several good points in vol. I suggesting that qc/lp should rise over time (though it's not a complete argument). qc/lp might be called the "the organic composition of capital" (OCC) following Fine and Harris (REREADING CAPITAL, 1979, P. 59), directly reflecting the technical composition of capital, which can't be measured directly. __________________________ To call qc/lp the OCC would be highly confusing. Because it is literally the technical composition of capital. The problem with the concept of "technical composition of capital" is of course the problem of aggregation. However, if we assume that the transfer of value from the *fixed capital* to the output is negligible, then one could say that most of the value of constant capital that is transfered to the commodity comes from the raw materials. In this case, an increase in productivity must mean that the same amount of labor converts more raw material, and so there must be a rise in the technical composition of capital. Here technical composition can be calculated because raw material must remain the same if we are producing the same commodity. Now, as long as this rise in the technical composition (which can be measured only by ignoring machines) reflects a rise in the value composition as well, then Marx calls it the organic composition of capital. _______________________________ VCC = vc*OCC/vlp Now, vlp = average real wage/labor productivity in wage-good industry = rw/z2. _______________________________ This, I don't think, is strictly correct. A rise in the productivity in capital good sector should also reduce the value of labor-power, since constant capital plays a part in determining the value of wage-goods. So the rest of the mathematics would need to be modified. Cheers, ajit sinha