Louis Proyect:

By the way, Doug and I both went after the Genovese gang on the Marxism 
list some months ago. I discussed a review of his new book and an old 
comrade of mine (not the one who is mentioned just below) offered some 
thoughtful reflections on Genovese's views on slavery.

> 
>  Louis Proyect:
> 
> An old friend from my Troskyist days alerted me to a review of 
> Eugene Genovese's new book "Southern Discomfort" that appeared in 
> the London Review of Books (June 8, 1995). To my surprise, this book 
> seems to have eluded reviewers over here. Since it is appallingly 
> reactionary, you'd expect it to garner glowing page-one reviews in the 
> NY Times book review section, etc.
> 
> Genovese offers up in this book a defense of the values and civilization 
> of the ante-bellum South. The only thing he rejects is slavery, but all 
> the rest of it--the agrarian life-style, the traditionalism, the 
> paternalism, etc.--seems to appeal to him immensely. He identifies 
> particularly with the Agrarian poets, a noxious offshoot of the new 
> criticism that included John Crowe Ransom and Allen Tate among 
> others. This crew hated the north, industrialization, democracy and 
> liberalism and were strongly influenced by the creepy T.S. Eliot.
> 
> Genovese, now 63, was once briefly a member of the CPUSA. He was 
> a prominent opponent of the Vietnam war and left Rutgers University 
> in 1966 when the anti-Communist fervor was still strong. But a year 
> earlier Genovese showed signs of adapting to slavocracy. He was one 
> of the few scholars of the civil war who came to the defense of William 
> Styron's slimy "The Confessions of Nat Turner".
> 
> Genovese, although a Yankee, began to discover his own affinity for 
> the slave-owner's society in his book "The World the Slaveowners 
> Made" (1969) and the forward to "American Negro Slavery" by U.B. 
> Phillips. Phillips and his own book try to make the case that the 
> slavocracy was "hegemonic" like no other ruling class in history. He 
> decries the racism but is fascinated by the "stability" of the old south.
> 
> In 1974, Genovese came out with "Roll, Jordan, Roll: The World the 
> Slaves Made". According to him, masters and slaves struggled 
> together to create a "reasonably livable world of shared responsibilities 
> and obligations: an interpretation that scarcely pleased the Left or the 
> slaves' descendants", according to reviewer Bertram Wyatt-Brown 
> (now is that a British name, or is it!)
> 
> The political thrust of Genovese's latest book is that the old south 
> championed "family values" and that this is something US society 
> needs to recover. If we bracket out the nastiness of chattel slavery, he 
> thinks there is a lot to be admired about the old south.
> 
> Genovese has followed the same political trajectory as that of the 
> recently 
> deceased Christopher Lasch, who also in recent years had castigated 
> the excesses of 1960's radicalism. Both of these old farts reached 
> political maturity at a time when the left was a place where men were 
> men, women were women, and everybody knew their place. Thank 
> god for the woman's movement, the gay movement and the 
> counterculture. While these movements stuck in the craws of these old 
> geezers, this is one 50 year old who is nostalgic not for the stable and 
> traditional south, but the wild and woolly 1960's when everything was 
> coming apart at the seams.
> 



On Tue, 18 Jul 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In Roll Jorday Roll Genovese pointed out that the record of slave revolt 
> in the American South was relatively minor.  He then asked a question that 
> deserved asking at the time.  "Why, since slavery is such an evil and 
> inhuman system, were there not more slave revolts?"  A question that we 
> can certainly ask profitably about wage slavery.  He then went on to 
> analyze the system of represssion and reward in the unique instance of 
> slavery in the South.  He pointed out that it was the only slave society 
> in history where the slaves reproduced themselves.  He pointed to the 
> uncomfortable fact that the standard of living of Southern slaves was 
> higher than that of factory workers in Europe and equal to that of factory 
> workers in the North.  In Roll he did not glorify paternalism, he 
> explained it.  I remember the experience of reading that book very clearly 
> because I felt at the time that Genovese offered an insight, namely that 
> social reality is complex and so are the people who make it up.  An evil 
> social system is not purely evil.  It's filled with positive features that 
> allow it to continue to exist.  Slavery, bondage and wage slavery, offer 
> freedom from choice, little risk as long as you stay within the prescribed 
> bounds.  With our short lives and perilous mortality, those are powerful 
> incentives to accept whatever is given.
> 
> ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------
On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Harry M. Cleaver wrote:

> Doug: 
> 
> Thanks for the update. Have they joined the Right Wing National 
> Association of Scholars?  Have they joined David Horowitz's "Second 
> Thoughts" group of ex-new lefties turned neoconservative? Probably not 
> the latter. After all Eugene was blasting the New Left years ago. His 
> wife's association with the Right appears quite consistent with his history 
> of reactionary politics. The question is how many readers of his 
> "Marxist" work on slavery understood how those politics were embodied 
> in that work?  Those who didn`t understand it should go back and read it 
> again.
> 
> Harry 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Doug Henwood wrote:
> 
> > I just got the press pack from the Independent Women's Forum, the
> > Washginton-based right-wing women's group headed by Barbara Ledeen, wife of
> > the notorious covert operator Michael Ledeen. The IWF is funded in part by
> > the Bradley Foundation, one of the major funders of the big-time right.
> > Elizabeth Fox-Genovese has joined the advisory board for their journal, and
> > she also appears in their guide of experts along with Sheila Burke, Bob
> > Dole's chief of staff; Wendy Lee Gramm, free marketeer and spouse of Phil;
> > and hip Gen X rightists Laura Ingraham and Lisa Schiffren; a number of
> > Republican staffers at Congressional committees; and a biger number of
> > think tanks at the usual places, from Heritage to the property rights
> > theorists at PERC in Bozeman, Mont. E F-G modestly lists herself as an
> > expert in: "Children & Family, Family Leave & Child Care, Education,
> > Welfare, Ethics & Religion, Feminist Ideology, Health: General, Health:
> > Ethics, Health: Women's, Popular Culture, Public Policy, Race & Ethnicity,
> > Affirmative Acdtion & Equal Opportunity, Glass Ceiling, Multiculturalism,
> > Sexual Harassment, Civil Rights, Economic Policy/Budget, Legal Issues/The
> > Law, Politics." I've not measured this scientifically but this list looks
> > longer than any other entrant's.
> > 
> > This comes upon news that E F-G's spouse, Eugene, in one evening in 1992
> > announced that he: 1) planned to vote for Bush, 2) loved the Gulf War, and
> > 3) praised Pat Robertson as "a good anti-racist."
> > 
> > Doug
> > 
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