This article was forwarded to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Wharton): --------------------------------- cut here ----------------------------- Path: dale.CAM.ORG!altitude!Rezonet.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!philabs!uunet!in2.uu.net!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!galliher From: estabrook carl g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: alt.fan.noam-chomsky Subject: Chomsky's Birthday Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 13:35:26 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 50 NNTP-Posting-Host: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Happy birthday to ANC from the staff of "News from Neptune: the Chomskyan News Hour" 10-11am Saturdays on WEFT (FM 90.1) Champaign-Urbana, Illinois. "If the left is understood to include 'Bolshevism,' then I would flatly dissociate myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism, in my opinion, for reasons I've discussed. The idea that workers are only interested in horse-racing [as the Fabian socialist, Beatrice Webb, said] is an absurdity that cannot withstand even a superficial look at labour history or the lively and independent working class press that flourished in many places, including the manufacturing towns of New England not many miles from where I'm writing - not to speak of the inspiring record of the courageous struggles of persecuted and oppressed people throughout history, until this very moment. Take the most miserable corner of this hemisphere, Haiti, regarded by the European conquerors as a paradise and the source of no small part of Europe's wealth, now devastated, perhaps beyond recovery. In the past few years, under conditions so miserable that few people in the rich countries can imagine them, peasants and slum-dwellers constructed a popular democratic movement based on grassroots organisations that surpasses just about anything I know of elsewhere; only deeply committed commissars could fail to collapse with ridicule when they hear the solemn pronouncements of American intellectuals and political leaders about how the US has to teach Haitians the lessons of democracy. Their achievements were so substantial and frightening to the powerful that they had to be subjected to yet another dose of vicious terror, with considerably more US support than is publicly acknowledged, and they still have not surrendered. Are they interested only in horse-racing? "I'd suggest some lines I've occasionally quoted from Rousseau: `when I see multitudes of entirely naked savages scorn European voluptuousness and endure hunger, fire, the sword, and death to preserve only their independence, I feel that it does not behoove slaves to reason about freedom'." --Noam Chomsky, May 1995 --------------------------------- cut here -----------------------------