Here is the big apple (I am -- for myself -- vehemently opposed to living anywhere where I have to drive for everything), one of the best known subsidizations of the burbs is public transportation. Now, I forget the exact figures, but anyone can certainly get them from either the Urban League or the Strap Hangers League, but, subway and bus riders in the inner city pay roughly 90% of the cost of their transportation while those commuting in on Metro North, LIRR, and Jersey Transit pay less than 60% of the cost of their transportation. So, the inner city minorities are subsidizing the transportation of the primarily white suburbs. Hmmmm, what is wrong with this picture?? thus ends my blurbs on the burbs (heh, heh, heh) maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]