You may be correct. I was only making a minor point.
Rod Hay wrote:
> Michael. I am making a distinction between writing about nature and writing about the
> environment. What he wrote about nature or more correctly about the mediate and
> immediate relations of purposeful human activity to nature (i.e. labour), is on a
> fairly abstract philosophical level. When he wrote about soil fertility, he is
>dealing
> with the more practical influence of human society on nature. So there is no
>necessary
> contradiction between what you wrote and what Lou wrote.
>
> Rod Hay
>
> Michael Perelman wrote:
>
> > Rod, what Marx wrote early on about nature was relatively utopian and naive. Only
> > after the US Civil war did he begin to look more deeply.
> >
> > Rod Hay wrote:
> >
> > > I would have to side with Lou here. Marx did write about the relations between
> > > society and nature throughout his career. Otherwise, it is impossible to discuss
> > > human labour. His life long interest in the works of Aristotle and Hegel indicate
> > > that.
> > >
> > > That is not the same as saying that "took the environment seriously."
> > >
> > > Rod Hay
> > >
> > > Michael Perelman wrote:
> > >
> > > > Louis not quite here. It was only with the onset of the Cotton Famine that
> > > > they began to take the environment seriously. I have written in my Marx book
> > > > that he took the environment more seriously than he let on because he feared
> > > > giving too much credence to the Malthusians.
> > > >
> > > > Louis Proyect wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Marx and Engels wrote about the relationship between society and nature
> > > > > throughout their career.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > Michael Perelman
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