A KARL CARLILE MESSAGE: KARL: Hi Bill BILL:that is the question. my bet is that central planning did not necessarily lead to any growth scenarios in cuba. its impact might have been more on equity and civilised interactions b/tw people. the multipliers coming from the strong USSR presence in the economy would have kicked irrespective of the type of allocation and distribution system. KARL: It is quixotic to suggest, as you do, that Cuba is a centrally plAnned economy and not a centrally planned economy. If the planning principle has been operating in Cuba then it follows that it regulates the economy and thereby the degree and quality of its economic growth, not outside contingencies. If the latter determine Cuban economic growth then it is the latter that regulate its economy (forgive the tautology). You cannot have your cake and eat it Bill. In short there is an irrationalist ideology underpinning your notions as expressed in this message of yours. Irrationalism is an invasive bourgeois ideology that has reached deep into the experience and praxis of the working class and in this way sustains its lack of revolutioanry political vision. Karl Carlile