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yes, because many males that have male hormones are not necessarily males
in the conventional sense.I don't think that they are "abnormal" because
they have "different" hormones.
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CB: What do hormones do ? Anything ? Even if some males' behavior is not affected by
their hormones, what about the others ? Are their behaviors affected by their hormones
?
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Sociobiologists would make such
essentialist arguments, relating different sexualities to hormonal
abnormalities or deviations (so hetero is seen as the norm). Gay people
would refuse to put themselves in this definition. They are still males by
virtue of their biological identity (let's says organs), but they prefer
not to engage in a sexual intercourse with women. I don't know the reason
why though, but it does not seem to me terribly clear that there is a
necessary relation between biology and gender.
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CB: Lets leave out "normal" and "abnormal". Lets use "some" and "some". Do hormones
have some impact on some males' and some females' behavior ?
CB
>Would we conclude that hormones have no impact on behavior ?
>CB
>>> "Eric Nilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/16/00 12:52PM >>>
RE
>Twenty-five of the children were sex reassigned, meaning doctors
castrated them at birth and their parents raised them as girls.
>But over the years, all of the children, currently aged 5-16,
exhibited the rough-and-tumble play of boys. Fourteen declared themselves to
be boys...
Genderization is a subtle process. The weakness of the study cited a few
days ago is that is was not a "double-blind" study. That is, the parents
knew their children were sex reassigned and so did the doctors. Knowing
this, the parents possibly treated these "ex-boys" as if they were boys in
very subtle-and not so subtle-ways. The study was just as much a test that
parents have beliefs about gender being built into the genes (and treat boys
- sex reassigned or not - as boys) then it was about what was really in the
genes.
I was astounded that when my daughter was born about two years ago, that
within minutes after she was born a genderization process was being applied
to her. The attending nurse almost instantly noted that we should have great
fun dressing Emily up in nice clothes and noted how dainty she was.
Afterwards, when I persisted in dressing Emily in gender neutral-clothes,
strangers who interacted with Emily became very uncomfortable until they
found out what sex she was. I was, meanly perhaps, very vague in my
response, saying something like, "I love taking my baby out." These
strangers often refused to interact further with Emily until they found out
her sex. Once learning her sex, they then returned to interacting with her -
"she's so beautiful," etc because they then knew what script (for boy or for
girl) to use in interacting with her.
My two cents.
