Jim (Devine),

        I liked your post on dumping costs and the idealization of 
markets by some market socialists as a magical way to avoid "political" 
social choice decisions.

        I too like much of Hahnel-Albert's work but feel that their 
categorical rejection of all market mechanisms is counter productive and 
leaves them open to the wishfull thinking impractical utopian type 
criticism to which they have been subjected.  

        I think pen-l readers (market socialists and non alike) may find 
SOCIALISM AFTER COMMUNISISM: THE NEW MARKET SOCIALISM by Christopher 
Pierson (Penn State , 1995) of interest.  I'm reveiwing for SCIENCE AND 
SOCIETY which sent me the book out of the blue - for which I'm grateful.

        Pierson who is a political scientist has packed an awsomely 
exhaustive survey of market socialism both from economists , but 
particualry from policy sci theorists such as Dahl, Held, and Gould, 
which is highly relevant to this debate but which we economists rarely 
address.  

        His conclusion: though the market socialists have provoked a much 
needed debate on some traditional socialist assumptions, it is not a 
viable or feasible program for the future.  Among other things this is 
because market socialists are not Hayekians who can see the market as an 
absolute ideal but rather acknowledge that bad market outcomes must be 
corrected politically.  This implies an embedding of markets in politics 
in a way that Neo-Liberals would dispise, but which means that markets 
can only be advocated conditionally for utilitarian purposes by market 
socialists so that in the end the issue once again is increased 
democratization and accountability of both the state and civil society - 
a job which cnnot be reduced to markets.

  Pierson argues that in the end 
market socialism is also not a FEASIBLE strategy politically as the 
changes in ownership it advocates would be fiercly resisted and could not 
be implemented without collapsing an existing captialist economy (esp. in 
an era of global capitalism) This which is also the problem of social 
democratic reforms which led to some of the market socialism ideas IS NOT 
SOLVED by market socialism.  Pierson seems to lean towards a "wage-fund" 
or "pension-fund" staregy which a la Meidner could be implemented 
gradually out of growth.   

Finally,an era of increasing recognition of "environmental limits" 
whatever they may be, implies greater atention to collective control over 
resources.

So we're back to social choice, "externalities", and the environment - (my 
reading) once again.

You can run but you can't hide (from social choice) behind a market!

Cheers!

Ron Baiman
Economics, Roosevelt Univ., Chicago


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