Max: You could profitably look at either Pat Devine's model of democratic planning he calls negotiated coordination (Democratic Planning, Westview 1988) or Mike Albert and my model of participatory planning (The Political Economy of Participatory Economics, Princeton, 1991). Both treatments deal with most of the "impossibility theorem" red-herrings you have been offering in this debate. FYI every market socialist I know of these days has conceded the technical possibility of democratic or participatory planning and now objects on grounds of "too much trouble" and/or "too unfree" compared to one or another version of market socialism. But most of your objections have been answered and others no longer raise them. Hence, Lear's growing impatience.