Rudy, Problems with the "diminishing returns" production function wfirst raised to my knowledge by Pierro Sraffa in his 1926 Economic Journal article. There is a symposium on this in then 1930 Economic JOurnal article with Young. This is a major weakness in the whole Neoclassical edifice which is even acknowledged though not integrated into a theory by Marshal himself and by recent Neoclassicals such as Mansfield in his text "MIcroeconomics" (8th Edition , Norton) - see empirical estimates of long-run total cost functions (the flip side of production funtions) on p. 243-244. Most of them are not "u" shaped. Robert Kuttner also adresses this issue while endorsing a Schumpeterian view of long run dynamic efficiency in his recent excellent book "Everything for Sale", Knof, 1996. I assume your refering to long-run problems. If I understand your question correctly, This is a long standing central point of contention between NC's and others PK's, Rads, Schumpeterians, etc. Best, Ron ********************************************** Ron Baiman Dept. of Economics Roosevelt University Fax: 312-341-3680 430 South Michigan Ave Chicago, Illinois 60605 Voice: 312-341-3694 ********************************************** On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Rudy Fichtenbaum wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------8596EDC528FE2FDF4B76ED97 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I a gearing up to teach our introductory course in economics (We are on > a quarter system). All principles book always portray the PPC as being > concave and use it to talk about the law of diminishing returns. Isn't > this incorrect from a technical perspective because diminshing returns > requires that one factor be held constant while varying another factor? > In transfering resources from guns to butter (the classic example) isn't > one transfering both labor and capital? If this is the case then how > can the law of diminishing returns apply? > > Next most texts rationalize the concave shape and the law of diminishing > returns by stating that as resources that are best suited for one type > of production are transfered to another type of production they are not > as efficient. This results in increasing costs i.e., a concave > production funtion. How can this be squared with the assumption that > labor and capital are homogenious? If labor and capital are homogenious > then they should be equally adept at producing guns or butter. > > The only way I know of to get a concave PPC is to have two production > functions where at least one has increasing returns to scale. This is > of course inconsistent with perfect competition. > > Am I right about this stuff or did I miss something? > > Rudy > -- > Rudy Fichtenbaum Phone: > 937-775-3085 > Department of Economics FAX: 937-775-3545 > Wright State University email: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dayton, OH 45435 > > > --------------8596EDC528FE2FDF4B76ED97 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Rudy Fichtenbaum > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" > > begin: vcard > fn: Rudy Fichtenbaum > n: Fichtenbaum;Rudy > org: Wright State University > adr: Department of Economics;;3640 Colonel Glenn >Hwy;Dayton;OH;45435-0001;US > email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > title: Professor of Economics > tel;work: 937-775-3085 > tel;fax: 937-775-3545 > tel;home: 937-233-5252 > x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 > x-mozilla-html: FALSE > end: vcard > > > --------------8596EDC528FE2FDF4B76ED97-- >