I wanted to say how much I appreciated much that has transpired on pen-l
recently.  Almost everything has been constructive.

Today I received a number of posts from K.C.  Each took a short snippet
from a post, declared it to be bullshit, and then proclaimed the correct
political line.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I think that
this sort of stuff seems to detract from our communication.

Most of us are socialists.  Some may want market socialism; others
planning, but I think that most of us can consider each other comrades. 
This instance is not the only time that people have come at each other
personally on the list.  It is not ncessary.



Karl Carlile wrote:

> KARL: The bullshit on this list is phenomenal. To talk about the Euro
> being a terrible idea is absusrd. It is like saying that one kind of
> money is better than another kind. That a local currency is better
> and kinder than a common international currency. In terms of what
> Colin says this means that one kind of money is kinder to the masses
> than another kind. Did you ever hear such shit. On the basis of this
> logic then bartering is better than money exchange and smaller
> local capitalist firms are better than international  ones.
> 
> The point is that in the modern capitalist world all money is essentially
> capitalist money. To argue that one kind of capitalism is better than
> another is to misunderstand the nature of capital and that the task
> of socialism is to prmote the abolition of capital and its money form
> rather than to push for one kind of capitalism as opposed to another.
> 
> So cut out the bullshit and abolish neanderthalia on this and other
> lists.
> 
>                                      Karl Carlile
> 
> 
>                           Yours etc.,
>                                      Karl

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