In a message dated 97-06-09 11:26:58 EDT, you write: >>Most unions were formed when people were working six >>days a week, 10-12 hours a day. Doug and a couple of other people have pointed out that twentieth century Americans also work long weeks (ie Juliet Schor's Overworked American--excellent book). The point this quote was attached to originally was a response to Tavis (I think Tavis, sorry if I'm wrong). Tavis said that organizing working people is incredibly hard because they work long hours--I was pointing out that during the most active unionizing in this country, people on average worked even longer hours and that difficult conditions aside, hard working people can be moved into tremendous activity. I still stand by the original statement. (p.s. I work ridiculous hours and I still have time to post b.s., er stuff to pen-l.) maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]