In a message dated 97-06-06 18:48:36 EDT, you write: >Organizing the very poor, for example, is extremely >complicated. Poor people are highly overworked and have very little >time. You usually have to have all your meetings on Saturday and Sunday >afternoons, or else right at the end of the workday and keep it short. >No long ideological battles on weekdays, I'm afraid. Are long ideological battles ever necessary? Perhaps intellectuals don't communicate to non-intellectuals because the 'nons' don't want to waste time in ideological battles--real battles are hard enough. Also, as I pointed out in another message, a higher percentage of the u.s. working class were organized into unions at the end of the nineteenth century than at any other time. The average work day was 10-11 hours a day, six days a week. >Often they don't >have money for the subway and you have to provide it. For all these >kinds of reasons, it's a lot easier for staff-run organizations of >middle class people to crop up claiming to represent the poor. T It's this we/they attitude that is at least part of the reason for the lack of communication. maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]