The man in a 'flapping white coat' Mark Jones refers to was Martin Niemoeller, Lutheran church leader who opposed the Nazis. A quote of his is one of my very favorite: "First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up". Paul Zarembka P.S. Michael P. made an error when he said Jerry Levy had been referring to Louis and Doug. In fact, Doug explicitly had said that Jerry is not a bigot in any way. Jerry has been refering to the Louis P. and Mark J. and it was the Mark J.'s quote about the New Left Review that Jerry cited that started the recent interchange off. There is no reason for Jerry to remain silent. ________________________________________ Mark Jones wrote on May 27, commenting on Paul Zarembka's paraphrasing: >> First they came for the gays, but I am not a gay; then they came for >> the Trotskyists, but I am not a Trotskyite; then they came...; then >> they came for me and no one was left". > This would be the men in flapping white coats, presumably. > Mark
