At 15:18 5/06/98 -0700, Jim Devine wrote: >I had written: >The realist postulate is not about the content of what we >know. All it says is that there is actually something "out there" that is a >basis for our perceptions. The "god exists" postulate, on the other hand, >is very specific about what exists. It is asserting much more.< _______________ But then how do you distinguish "out there" from "in here". Where does this distinction come from? I think the idea of God is the idea of perfection. And why shouldn't this idea come to us as 'naturally' as the idea of "out there"? Cheers, ajit sinha