Nonsense, occasional vindictive silliness never hurt anything. I spent a great of deal of time on another list having to explain why I did not want Clinton impeached by the right wing. An occassional reminder that he is one of the bad guys, that we are defending him on civil liberties grounds, as a way of keeping the new puritans (who are as big on witch hanging as the old ones) from winning -- not because he is in any way one of ours. I will defend him from this particular right wing attack -- but I will not stop passionately hating him for having done more to move the country rightward than Richard Nixon was ever able to do. From executing a mentally retarded man, ending our chances for single payer health, welfare deform multiple bombings, NAFTA, destroying the rights of the disableds -- this is an evil man. I know it is politics, but I cannot avoid hating personally someone who has been this destructive -- especially when is smart enough, educated enough and experienced enough to know exactly what he is doing. I know he is nothing but boil on a destructive system, but he is a willing boil, a volunteer putrescence. Sometimes we have to defend such, on the same grounds we would defend the right to free speech of Nazis or Klu Klux Klanners -- because allowing this state to take away their rights sets a precendent which threatens ours. (Remember the House Unamerican Activities Committee began by investigating Nazi sympathizers, and I believe tackled Trotskyites before going after Communists, Socialists and liberals.) valis wrote: > > Quoth Gar Lipow: > > Jim Hurd on another lists proposed he accept voluntary chemical > > castration as the price of staying in office... I suggested the > > surgical kind would probably be more acceptable to Clinton, as he is > > used to trading his balls for political power. > > > > James Devine wrote: > > > from SLATE: >Forget censure. Forget impeachment. How about putting the Big > > > Creep to work clearing roadside trash or dishing out soup kitchen grub? > > > David Plotz proposes a community-service sentence for Clinton.< > > Come on, guys, this is vindictive silliness unworthy of the list. > valis -- Gar W. Lipow 815 Dundee RD NW Olympia, WA 98502 http://www.freetrain.org/