Tom Walker wrote: 

>I second the endorsement for Ricoeur but wouldn't disdain Gadamer. 

In general, my point was that both of them were not perfect either.One
does not need to be *empricist* to criticize hermeneutics.Empricism alone
does not guarentee radical science, as such it is an *ideology* as a
method. It is non-marxist in its methodological orientation. The whole
empirical tradition in social sciences people like Parsons, Dahl (bingo
American pluralism!), Verba (bingo civic culture!), Deutsch, Huntington or
positivist (fascist) socio-biologists like Wilson, Dawkins, Pearson belong
to are famous in their bombastic claims to neutrality--studying the
reality as it is without any reference to value judgements or political
preferences. They claim so called objectivity when they link rape to human
genetic structure or study brain size differences and eugenics to make
claims about the racial inferiority of blacks, hispanics etc. There is
INDEED politics that shapes their arguments. Ideological preferences,
maintanence of a power structure within empricism ensures the continuity
of mainstream practices. People who bullshit about sociology saying that
it has no theoretical validity can not see that postivist/social science
distinction so much celebrated by empricists to impose their own
intellectual hegemony does indeed promote a distorted wiew of reality,
IDEOLOGY.


On the other hand, hermeneutical method of sciences, which is an
interpretative understanding of a phenomenon through a textual reading
(btw still the text has a *coherent* meaning for them, which is not the
case for deconstructionist postmodernists) runs the risk of being too text
centric, like those post modernists who they claim to be critical.
Since they focus heavily on understanding and interpretation they can not
see that our understandings can be distorted or ideology
distorts reality in our understandings of the social world. They assume
that the reader can freely interpret the text, thus they are
as ideologs as empricists. Hermeneutical method can be radicalized only if
one is self-concious of the *ideological orientation* of the text she is
reading. One needs a critical distance between the text and the self. In
my view, Gadamer fails this test at this moment; he idealizes the author
and makes any critical reflection impossible. That being said, he treats
the text conservatively and uncritically ( I am not big a fun of
Habermas, but his critique of Gademer as well as postmodernists deserve
some legitimate credit here).

>Marx's critique of The German Ideology. Lukacs addressed the issue as
>"false consciousness" in _History and Class Consciousness_. That's where
>this critical theory "lit crit sh*t" comes from.

Literary critique does not *necessarily* have to be *shit*. That was the
point I was resisting. Such a way of brushing literary critique carries
an empricist bias. There are many Marxist literary critics out there who
are not a shit, evidently.

>understanding to others. One of the problems that Freud addressed in
>Moses
>and Monotheism was Moses' inarticulateness, an inarticulateness that
>might
>even be attributed to his understanding. 

Freud would have less distorted reality if he had not assumed that WAR
originated from our *inner agressive drives* or women had a
penis envy.... he was so much into Hobbes' sexism and phsycological
individualism..

>Gramsci called for pessimism of the intellect and optimism of the will. I
>guess I can lay claim at least to the first part of that formula. 

Correct! Grasmci advocates a politically articulated historical
materialism, which is why I love him... he is a very dynamic thinker..


>Tom Walker

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SUNY/Albany


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