This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_914277192_boundary Interesting argument below. However, I would prefer not to repeat one neoclassical fiction (market rewards individuals according to their relative marginal contributions to social product) in the course of exploring others. Also, embargoes such as those against Cuba and Iraq suggest that some operating "in the market" do indeed will and desire--for others--starvation ass an instrument of imperial policy and control. But your example is indeed intriguing. Jim Craven --part0_914277192_boundary Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> by rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:49:55 -0500 (EST) Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:50:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <l03130314b2a42c73eeab@[137.92.41.119]> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:11:21 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Brad De Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PEN-L:1792] Redutio ad Absurdum Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >"I do a little number in my Micro classes called "Pareto Optimality at >Auschwitz" ... " > >Way back, I changed degrees half a semester into an education/economics >degree. Those who purported to teach how to teach couldn't teach, and >those who purported to explain human behaviour weren't talking about >anybody I knew - well, not then, anyway. > >Maybe I wasn't as lucky with my teachers as your students so obviously are. > >Maybe too many of us weren't. > >All the best, >Rob. I think famines work better--they make the point that if your labor-time endowment has no value, then your utility has no weight in the social welfare function that the market maximizes, and so you starve to death: the market's equilibrium weighs each person's preferences roughly by the market value of his/her endowment. I think famines work better because starvation is not a willed and desired objective of anyone in the market--while mass death certainly was a willed and desired objective of those who ran the show during the "final solution." "Final solution" examples leave people thinking, "yes, this market-as-a-social-allocation-mechanism does indeed efficiently produce the goals that society has chosen." Famine examples--I think, at least--probe a little bit deeper because the market also plays a powerful role in "choosing" "society's" "goals." Brad DeLong --part0_914277192_boundary--