Pat Devine is a market socialist. Market socialism is an attempt to establish socialism in a capitalist economy. It is an attempt to reconcile the irreconcilable. Market socialists treat market ahistorically, abstracting it from its capitalist and historical content. Recently, market socialists have used right-wing economist Hayek's arguments about information assymetry in planned economies to suggest that socialism without a market economy is an inefficient economic system. btw, Hahnel and Albert seem to overstate their differences from market socalists, as fas as I can tell from what they post on Z magazine concerning participatory economics. Since they have converged somewhat, according to recent information, I assume they must be the same. Mine Doyran
