I wrote: >>When the crisis actually comes -- which becomes more >>likely as imbalances worsen -- the accumulated debt encourages bankruptcies >>and waves of bankruptcies and represents a barrier to continued >>accumulation. (A barrier, I might add, that is eventually purged by the >>recession and stagnation periods.) Tom Walker writes: >Jim: can/do you elaborate on this in terms of the non-synchronous >development of the forces of production and the relations of production? wow, what a big task. But I'll try, in desperate brevity. for capitalism, I would substitute: "accumulation" for "development of the forces of production" and "conditions for harmonious reproduction of capitalism" for "relations of production." Thus, there is a contradiction between accumulation and its basis. The first substitution makes sense: under capitalism, the quantity and quality of development of forces of production is basically those of capitalist accumulation. This includes the growth of the labor force, which becomes less and less of a Malthusian process when capitalism dominates. The second substitution simply makes what we mean by the "relations of production" more specific. Breaking the "conditions for harmonious reproduction of capitalism" is pretty much the same thing as accumulation undermining its own basis. Bowles and an earlier incarnation of Gintis, in their book SCHOOLING IN CAPITALIST AMERICA, talk about a contradiction between accumulation and legitimation. I like O'Connor's interpretation, where it's accumulation and reproduction that are in conflict. Reproduction means more than keeping the working class and other oppressed groups passive ("legitimation") but also keeping peace amongst the capitalists. The latter would be stated in terms of conditions for harmonious growth. In my 1994 RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY article, I used a modified version of the Harrod-Domar model to state these conditions. Anyway, crises involve over-accumulation, where the "too far" of accumulation is defined relative to the conditions for harmonious growth. Capital tends to go too far because of competition and because growth helps stabilize class relations. (Trickle down helps keep the masses in line.) Depending on historical conditions, overaccumulation occurs either relative to supply constraints (as in the late 1960s) or relative to consumption (as in the late 1920s and seemingly the 1990s). This can lead to either stagnation or recovery, depending on the historical conditions again. is this what you were looking for, Tom? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://clawww.lmu.edu/Departments/ECON/jdevine.html