Well, Carroll, I certainly like to see you raise the level of discourse. So it's arrogant and stupid and in bad faith of Doug to ask for a reason to think that we could do better if we made some sort of change in a direction you would consider socialist. well, sign me up to the arrogant, stupid, and bad faith list. Of course one will be convinced to join up on the basis of such ana rgument, but if we don't have it, we are losers in the ideological war. In case you didn't notice, the last 200 or so times we tried going at the thing blind we fucked up. The working class has certainly noticed that little fact. I think it is attitudes like yours that have helped to stick us in this ghetto who all we can do is snarl at each other. --jks Bullshit Doug. On the contrary, any statement of the kind you want would be arrogant and stupid, not merely utopian. No one except a few academics and journalists (I ignore sheer demogogues) has ever taken up resistance to capitalism on the basis of being convinced there is a "better system." And frankly I doubt the good faith of anyone who asks such questions. Carrol >>
