On Thu, February 11, 1999 at 20:47:00 (-0600) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Bill Lear writes:
>
>> I don't have too much of a problem arguing against helmet laws.  My
>> take is that if a person does not hurt another person, then they are
>> free to hurt themselves and the state should not regulate that
>> behavior --- if it can be shown that not wearing helmets poses a
>> threat to others, no red-blooded American should protest efforts to
>> curb the harm.  My guess is that helmet laws and seat-belt laws were
>> done at the behest of insurance companies, not a cadre of
>> pajama-wearing socialists.
>> 
>Well I do have a problem.  We have banned helmetless riders 
>because of the selfish cost they impose upon others.  Cyclists 
>without  helmets cause an enourmous extra cost to the insurance 
>system that is passed on to other sensible drivers/riders.  It is the 
>equivalent of arguing for the elimination of laws against drunk 
>driving because the cost such idiots cause end up being passed on 
>to others and, in our case, to the health system which must be 
>paid by everyone.  I am all in favour of individual freedom -- up to
>the point that it begins to destroy other, innocent people's freedom.
>Helmet and seatbelt laws are the beginning of freedom for others 
>on the road.
>
>It is sentiments like that of BigWayne that makes me question the 
>rationality of American discourse.  That Bill Lear supports it makes 
>me sad and despondent!

Criminy Paul, I said, if you read what I wrote, that I don't have "a
problem *arguing* against helmet laws" (added emphasis), and "if it
can be shown that not wearing helmets poses a threat to others" such
laws should be supported.  Just where in this do I "support" the
sentiments (*not* of BigWayne I should point out) of his BigWayne's
biker friend?

I could end this by saying: "It is sentiments like that of Paul,
derived from skewed readings of plain English, that make me question
the reading skills of certain Canadian economics professors!", but I
wouldn't do that.

See, I used to ride a motorcycle in college and I always wore my
helmet. I always wear a seatbelt when I drive (won't drive if
passengers in my car aren't buckled in), and support laws for both
helmet use and seatbelts.  I don't think arguing against them,
however, is in the same league of insanity as the rest of Biker Boy's
twisted notions.


Bill



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