Angela:
>but, i did not frame this as such.  it has already been framed as such
>by the khmer rouge and by shining path. 

Please don't confuse these 2 groups.

> my comments go to the
>question of how exactly you would distinguish your version of 'back to
>the land' from these historical experiences of it.  that is to say,
>how exactly can you be sure that this is not simply a version of a
>middle-class radicalism turned against its roots through the longing
>for an idealised version of what 'the land' (or at least peasant
>cultures) are?

Do you want a detailed plan of not only how socialist revolutions will take
place, but a guarantee that they will not turn sour? You will not get this
from me or any other Marxist. I urge you to spend less time immersed in all
that trendy cultural studies nonsense and read some history. The Cuban and
Nicaraguan revolutions did not turn sour. What happened in Nicaragua is
that US imperialism did not allow it to become another Cuba. If Nicaragua
had been left in peace, it would have improved the FMLN and Guerrilla Army
of the Poor's chances to succeed in El Salvador and Guatemala. Three
developing socialist republics in Central America would have had a
destabilizing influence on Mexico to the north and Colombia to the south.
Falling dominos Central America style. That is why Reagan fought so hard
against the "Vietnam syndrome."

One of the biggest problems with viewing things ahistorically--which is the
most bitter fruit that postmodernism has bestowed upon us--is that the
revolutionary project is not seen through a Marxist prism, but through a
Nietzschean or Foucauldian one. The problem becomes one of how power
corrupts in a philosophical sense, rather than one of how particular
revolutions fell victim to historical conjunctural relationships of forces
between the workers and the ruling class. That is why some analysts
describe postmodernism as a retooled version of the anticommunist critique
first developed by Daniel Bell in the "End of Ideology".

Although this passage has been quoted a million times to illustrate the
problem revolutionaries face, it is always good to hear it one more time:

"Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they
do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances
existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all
dead generations weighs like an Alp on the brains of the living. And just
as they seem to be occupied with revolutionizing themselves and things,
creating something that did not exist before, precisely in such epochs of
revolutionary crisis they anxiously conjure up the spirits of the past to
their service, borrowing from them names, battle slogans, and costumes in
order to present this new scene in world history in this time-honored
disguise and this borrowed language." 

Karl Marx, 18th Brumaire

Louis Proyect

(http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)



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