Peter,

This is useful advice.  No point to worry about being condescending.

michael

Peter Dorman wrote:
> 
> I know there's a political side to this issue, but I would like to
> mention a useful technocratic device: fairly continuous classroom
> assessment.  I was converted to this approach many years ago, and I
> think it makes a huge difference.  The basic idea is not to wait until
> exams and term papers to find out *exactly* what students are getting
> from the course.  Every day or so there should be some sort of
> information-gathering device: quick-writes in class, mini-papers, small
> group discussions that you listen in on as you circulate.  The idea is
> to know as much as possible about what the students (all of them) are
> learning (or think they're learning) and how they're responding to
> it--in real time.  This won't eliminate appalling instances of
> ignorance, but it will bring them to the surface in time for you to
> address them in your teaching.  For me it's like I had been driving in
> the dark for years, and had just been introduced to headlights.
> 
> I don't mean this to be condescending.  You may be a veteran of these
> techniques, but there may be other teachers out there unfamiliar with
> them, as I was.
> 
> Peter Dorman
> 
> Michael Yates wrote:
> >
> > Friends,
> >
> > I have been a teacher for 30 years and by most accounts a good one. In
> > teaching economics and labor-oriented subjects I have developed hundreds
> > of concrete analyses, stories, etc. to make the material clear.  Now I
> > know we have discussed on these lists the state of education, the nature
> > of today's students, etc.  But I have to say that the level of
> > illiteracy and general stupidity seems to be rising among students. the
> > most basic words are unknown to them, and they never bother to look them
> > up.  I have to continually check myself when I am about to use a word I
> > know that they should understand but do not.
> >
> >         On a recent quiz someone said that the name of Adam Smith's famous book
> > was "Rivethead."!!  this after at least a dozen mentions of "The Wealth
> > of Nations."  They hear a word or remember a snippet of something I said
> > and put this down as an answer, no matter how preposterous.  Last year I
> > had a simple fill-in on a quiz:_____!,_______!,_______!, That is Moses
> > and the Prophets.  I had said the correct answer at least 20 times in
> > the preceding two weeks and explained why Marx said it and how neat of a
> > statement it is.  However, because I have arthritic hands, it is hard
> > for me to write on the board. So to save effort, after I had written out
> > the word "accumulation" several times, I started just writing
> > A_____,A____,A____ and saying the word "accumulation."  Sure enough on
> > the quiz at least a half dozen persons put "A,A,A" as the answer. One
> > student said that that is what she had in her notes!!!  Today a friend
> > told me that a student in an anthropology class had written the
> > following on an exam,"The Africans used Native American slaves to build
> > their railraod system."  Another, after reading the book about Guatemala
> > by the Rigoberto Menchu wrote in a paper about the "Finca" tribe of
> > Indians.
> >
> > I really can't take too much more of this.  I mean I still take this
> > stuff seriously.  Any advice?  My advice to myself is to retire, and
> > soon.  If it were not for the working people I teach, I do believe that
> > I would have an emotional collapse more serious than the ones I  have
> > already had.  To make matters worse, students without a clue or any
> > desire to learn whatever will be bitching about their grades.
> >
> > I have always tried not to an elitist academic.  I seldom lose my temper
> > and I always treat students with respect.  I am not telling you these
> > things as a joke or to  make fun of students.  But it seems to me that
> > capitalism has succeeded rather well in preparing young people to
> > believe just about anything and not to know how to analyze anything.
> >
> > michael yates



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