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From: "rc-am" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Fw: [PEN-L:4731] Saving lives in Kosovo
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:09:38 +1000

can you forward this to pen-l?  I've put my sub on postpone.

thanks,
angela


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From: rc-am <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, 2 April 1999 5:53
Subject: Re: [PEN-L:4731] Saving lives in Kosovo

carrol wrote:

>>It is April 1. Is Gar having his little joke?



it is not a joke to focus on the contradictions of NATO countries and
those who now use the refugees as little more than ammunition for
escalating this war.

nor is it a joke to refuse the only other option being presented here:
that of averting our eyes from the refugees, or worse, repositioning
them as fake,  as the only way of refusing the lies of NATO.

a simple question:  do you or not support this as a demand?

whom do we address any of our demands to?   we address them to the
suits to be sure, as we do any demand, but more importantly, we
address
them to each other.   that the left finds such a demand unthinkable,
as distinct from any other set of demands, only tells me that there
are sections of the left who are unwilling to let go of either (a)
the
demonisation of 'other people's' nationalism but not our own; or (b)
the substitution of proletarian internationalism with attachment to
national projects.

in most cases, I suspect it's a combination of both of these, since
both enable the continuing protection of one's own implicit
nationalism (the protection of one's own borders).    in the first
instance, we can claim that our nationalism is more civilized than
that of others (and I have shown time and again why this is not so);
in the second case, we can pretend that we are not really
nationalistic because, well, we support some other nationalism over
our own.    the latter is really not true though is it?   which is
why the demand for open borders sticks in some people's throats.

angela
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