Well, lest we get too carried away with these lists, let me note that the latest word is that indeed FDR did not know the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor ahead of time, although he was expecting them to attack somewhere, probably in the Philippines once he cut of their oil. Also, with regard to Ho Chi Minh, the OSS had aided him against the Japanese in WW II and he expected a continuation of that support against the French. Actually it was FDR in March, 1945, one of his last serious decisions, who decided that the US would support the French after de Gaulle made a special appeal and FDR felt a need to assuage him after having insulted him on multiple occasions during his British exile and during the liberation of France. However, it was a good six months, that is basically until the end of the war, before the OSS on the ground got the word and stopped supporting Ho. The appeal by Ho to Truman was to undo a decision made by FDR. Barkley Rosser -----Original Message----- From: Sam Pawlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:44 PM Subject: [PEN-L:4097] Re: Re: Re: secret societies and the origins ofcapitalist sociability > > >Henry C.K. Liu wrote: > >> Other open secrets: >> >> FDR knew about Japanese "sneak" attack on Pearl Harbor. >> America did not help Jews fleeing from Nazi Germany >> Truman used the two nuclear bombs on Japan mostly to warn the Soviets. >> >> Cardinal Spellman was very inflential in Kennedy's early decision to back a Catholic Vietnam regime in its persecution of local Buddhists whose monks kept burning themselves publicly in protest. >> Kennedy's White House sex with a known Soviet agent. >> >> Watergate was connected to CIA opposition to Nixon's bypassing it in his opening to China. >> >> Rubin turned down a US$100 billlion Asian recuse package offered by Japan in October, 1997 because of his insistence of American control on all rescue moves. >> >> I am sure others on the list can offer more. >> >> Henry C.K. Liu >> > >--Herbert Hoover using food aid earmarked for the USSR and Hungary( under Bela Kun) to feed the White armies. >--multi (14?) national invasion of the USSR in 1918. >--Polish invasion of USSR in 1920. >-- Ho Chi Minh asking Truman for help in fighting the French. >-- U.S. corporate support for Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. >-- War reparations paid to U.S. corporations operating in Nazi Germany that were destroyed by Allied bombings. >-- Pope Pius XII support of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. >-- U.K. support for fascists in the Greek war of national liberation in late 40's. > >and so on... > > >