I wrote: >>If I remember correctly, Levins and Lewontin's discussion in THE
DIALECTICAL BIOLOGIST does not employ the concept of contradictions to
understand non-human nature. So we might say that there are _no_
contradictions (structurally-based conflicts) within non-human nature, a
pretty large qualitative difference. <<

Bill B writes: >If I read it correctly (I don't have it, so someone correct
me if I'm wrong) they are on the other side, i.e. with Engels, that nature,
matter IS dialectical, IS contradiction. <

To quote an old Saturday Night Live routine, with Phil Hartman playing Ed
McMahan, "You are right, sir!" 

"For us, contradiction is not only epistemic and political, but ontological
in the broadest sense. Contradictions between forces are everywhere in
nature, not only in human social institutions. This tradition of dialectics
goes back to Engels ....neither Engels' factual errors not the rigidity of
idealist dialectics changes the fact that opposing forces lie at the base
of the evolving physical and biological world. 

"Things change because of the actions of opposing forces on them, and
things are in the way because of the temporary balance of opposing forces.
In the early days of biology an inertial view prevailed: nerve cells were
at rest until stimulated by other nerve cells and ultimately by sensory
excitation. ... Nature was at equilibrium unless perturbed. Later it was
recognized that nerve impulses act both to excite and to inhibit the firing
of other nerves, so that the state of a system depends on the network of
opposing stimuli, and that network can generate spontaneous activity... 

"The dialectical view insists that persistence and equilibrium are not the
natural state of things but require explanation, which must be sought in
the actions of the opposing forces. ..." (p. 279-80)

"Contradiction also means the existence of opposing principles (rather than
processes) which, taken together, have very different implications or
consequences then [sic] they would have if taken separately." (p. 285)

However, it might be argued that the dynamic contradictions within nature
that they see are qualitatively different from those within human society,
because the latter involve conscious striving, so that issues of
consciousness and ideology arise. (This was my basic point, even though I
said it poorly.) 

Among other things, creatures in nonhuman nature don't seem to consciously
strive to change the environment (even though they have the effect of doing
so). The worst of architects vs. the best of bees, after all! 

The other thing is that internal "contradictions in nature" do not involve
the possibility of causing a structural change which qualitatively alters
either the total structure of natural systems or the basic laws of motion
of nonhuman nature. In Marx, the class contradictions of capitalism involve
the possibility of abolishing classes and therefore the dynamics of human
society.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &
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Bombing DESTROYS human rights. Ground troops make things worse. US/NATO out
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