I think that socialism is coming to mean anyone who defies the market (except for unusal circumstantaces, such as Helms-Burton). So Milosevic, the banker, is a socialist in the same sense that Malaysia is socialist. Remember, Jim, we live in world where Clinton is a leftist and Newt G. is a moderate. Jim Devine wrote: > Is there anyone on pen-l who sees Serbia as "socialist"? in what sense? > what do they mean by "socialism" and in what sense does Serbia fit this > definition? > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901