>>> "J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/12/99 03:30PM >>>
Barkley:
  I get my versions from the Washington Post
which reports stuff that is not just from "official
spokespersons." 

Charles: This is not very critical thinking. To buy the
idea that the monopoly media is independent from the 
U.S. power structure is to be under U.S. Big Brother mind
control. In other words, your response to the People's
Daily Commentary is in a sarcastic tone, smacking of the old
capitalist propaganda 
that communism has Big Brother and the U.S. doesn't, that
the U.S. has freedom of the press, and communist
countries don't. This in itself is to be a sucker for
U.S. mindcontrol. The U.S. has freedom of the press, 
for them that owns the presses.

(((((((((((((

 Barkley:
That is where all this murky
stuff about the NIMA is coming from.  I think that
is a very big story and I don't see anybody on
any of these lists willing to deal with it or think
about it particularly.
      If one wants to do a right-wing cabal theory,
which I do not rule out, that is where it is operating.
Why is the non-Pentagon CIA getting all the blame
for this while the Pentagon-NIMA is getting let off
the hook entirely?

Charles: In this context, I think from the standpoint of the Chinese,
the Pentagon and the CIA are the same thing; they are  the United States.
The responsibility for whoever did it , intentional or unintentional,
mistake or accident,
lies with the President and U.S. for carrying out the war
at all. In that sense, the President of China's characterization
of it as "prevarication" seems accurate. It is not 
some dictatorial pronouncement , as your sarcasm 
implies,  but good logic and appropriate indignation.



Charles Brown


-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 3:07 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:6718] Re: People's Daily Commentary


>Just like if the Official Spokesperson of the United States Government says
it was a "mistake" or "accident" that certainly makes it so. Obviously, you
ARE very impressed by source.
>
>Big Brother media control is in the U.S. just as much as anywhere.
>
>
>Charles Brown
>
>>>> "J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/12/99 02:37PM >>>
>Henry,
>      Ooooooh.  Well, if His Excellency, President
>Jiang Zemin declares  that "mistaken bombing"
>or "accident" is "prevarication" and "can never be
>accepted" as explanations, that certainly makes
>it so.  I am very impressed.
>      BTW, let us be very clear that "explanation" is
>most definitely not the same think as "justification."
>There is no justification for what has happened.
>Barkley Rosser
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Henry C.K. Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 12:41 AM
>Subject: [PEN-L:6700] People's Daily Commentary
>
>
>>People's Daily: NATO, Serious Threat to World Peace
>>
>>BEIJING, May 11 (Xinhua) -- China's leading newspaper, the People's
>>Daily, has accused the U.S.-led NATO strikes against the Chinese Embassy
>>in Belgrade as brutal infringement upon
>>China's sovereignty and national dignity, and a serious threat to world
>>peace and security.
>>
>>In a commentary entitled "Serious Threat to World Peace" to be published
>>Wednesday, the paper pointed out that the lunatic U.S.- led NATO strikes
>>against the Chinese Embassy have shocked the whole world and ignited
>>wide-spread condemnation and indignation among the world people.
>>
>>Quoting Chinese President Jiang Zemin as saying, "The U.S.-led NATO must
>>bear full responsibility for the atrocity, or the Chinese people will
>>not leave the matter at that," the paper pointed out that any
>>prevarication such as "mistaken bombing" or " accident" can never be
>>accepted.
>>
>>Development and peace have become the irresistible trend of the world
>>since the end of the cold war. As a cold-war-time military organization,
>>NATO, manipulated by the U.S., did not
>>disband with the end of the cold war, but kept growing larger to the
>>contrary of the expectation of the world people, said the paper.
>>
>>According to its so-called "new strategic concept" made public late
>>April, NATO has developed from a defensive organization to an offensive
>>military and political one, which can extend its
>>military actions to areas beyond the north Atlantic and wage war against
>>any country without authorization from the United Nations.
>>
>>Obviously, this is a new strategic concept of hegemonism inflated, and
>>NATO's military attack against Yugoslavia bypassing the United Nations
>>is a practice of this concept, said the paper.
>>
>>The paper added the U.S.-led NATO military strike against Yugoslavia is
>>a downright gunboat policy. In history, the Western powers ran wild by
>>relying on advanced cannons and boats.
>>Today, the U.S.-led NATO uses high-tech weapons to wantonly bomb a small
>>nation and even wantonly raided the embassy of a permanent member of the
>>U.N. Security Council in flagrant
>>defiance of the U.N. Charter and basic principles governing
>>international relations.
>>
>>Such new gunboat policy is more fierce and more dangerous, and poses
>>greater threat to world peace, the paper warned, calling on all the
>>peace-loving people in the world and responsible
>>politicians of various countries to be highly vigilant against this
>>dangerous tendency of U.S.-led NATO.
>>
>>The paper stressed that major powers bear unshirkable responsibilities
>>for safeguarding world peace and security. In their telephone
>>conversation on May 10, President Jiang Zemin and
>>Russian President Boris Yeltsin agreed that, as Security Council
>>permanent members and countries with vital influence in the world, China
>>and Russia bear strong responsibilities for maintaining justice and
>>defending peace. They noted that China and Russia have cooperated well
>>on the Kosovo and other important international issues and will continue
>>to keep in close contact to make their efforts for the maintaining of
>>world peace and security.
>>
>>The paper finally urged all the peace-loving countries to work together
>>to immediately halt the extremely barbaric military actions against
>>Yugoslavia by the U.S.-led NATO in defense of world
>>peace.
>>
>>
>
>



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