> >Stalin and Mao were leaders at the time of enormous objective social and >economic transformations, revolutions, in which the working masses did >extract >some historical justice from exploiting classes, somewhat analogous to the >French Revolution reign of terror; and there occurred pitched class >battles of >a sort that had not been planned by all the leaders and >intellectuals of >revolution. > >A major flaw in Brad D's approach is his misrepresentation of the culpable >causal role of Mao and Stalin whom he slanders here, and elsewhere. > >Charles Brown Zinoviev and Kamenev appear to have disagreed... According to Antonov-Ovseyenko, Stalin is reported to have sent Voroshilov to the Lubianka prison to observe the execution of Zinoviev and Kamenev. Voroshilov, according to Mikoyan, reported that: "as they faced their executioners, Zinoviev shouted, 'This is a fascist coup!' Kamenev said: 'Stop it, Grisha. Be quiet. Let's die with dignity.' The last words were Zinoviev's: 'No! This is exactly what Mussolini did. He killed all his socialist party comrades when he seized power in Italy. Before my death I must state plainly: what has happened in our country is a fascist coup'." "Historical justice for the exploiting classes"? "Pitched class battles"? "Slander of Stalin"? I must be an idiot to be participating in this. It is beyond belief that there are--still--such stooges for the half-century dead Stalin... Brad DeLong -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "Now 'in the long run' this [way of summarizing the quantity theory of money] is probably true.... But this long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. **In the long run** we are all dead. Economists set themselves too easy, too useless a task if in tempestuous seasons they can only tell us that when the storm is long past the ocean is flat again." --J.M. Keynes -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- J. Bradford De Long; Professor of Economics, U.C. Berkeley; Co-Editor, Journal of Economic Perspectives. Dept. of Economics, U.C. Berkeley, #3880 Berkeley, CA 94720-3880 (510) 643-4027; (925) 283-2709 phones (510) 642-6615; (925) 283-3897 faxes http://econ161.berkeley.edu/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
