Henry wrote: >>>You are obviously a victim of the American press when it comes to information on China.<<< And continues: >As evident by you dig aboutt prison factories. There are prisons in China and they do work art some form of production, just like US prisoners make liscense plates or what not. < Actually prisoners in the US do much more than make license plates. If you call an 800 number [toll-free long-distance] to book an airplane flight or something, you might be talking to a prisoner. It's a joint venture of course. >That doe not make them prison factories, except as defined by Freedom House. Harry Wu, ... is a US imperialist agent.< I'd like to hear from some independent expert on this subject. _Anyone_ can throw around accusations like that "Harry Wu is a US imperialist agent" (just like the Freedom House folks assert that I.F. Stone was a Soviet agent or whatever). From the way Henry throws around accusations (and agrees with the subversion charges against independent Chinese unionists), _anyone_ from China who is even vaguely critical of that country will be accused of being an agent, a revisionist, a subversive, or worse. I think Henry Liu has proven himself to be extremely partisan in favor of the Chinese government and so I don't think I can rely on him for such assertions being true. Since, as he points out, I'm no expert on China, I can't verify this charge for myself. So, I'd like to hear from an independent expert, not only on Wu but on the prison factories. My guess, BTW, is that Harry Wu is one of those characters who arise in third world countries that the US cultivates, like some of the Chamorros in Nicaragua or Aquino in the Philippines, as a potential "asset" in case the ruling elite collapses. That doesn't mean, BTW, that what Wu says is always wrong. (Similarly, Henry Liu's status of being a capitalist doesn't mean that he's always wrong.) And some of these US potential assets turn against the US. >The collective in China are in fact run very democratically. Of cource, you may know better.< No I don't. But a collective can very easily be like a craft-union local, totally looking out for the collective #1. Or it could be under the government's political thumb. Both can be consistent with having democratic process. >I am exhausted and have a lot of other things to do. We are not getting anywhere. Let's just disagree.< You don't have to respond right away. That's why I waited a few days before posting my last reply. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://clawww.lmu.edu/Faculty/JDevine/jdevine.html
