Charles: In other words, you would have to be claiming that the European total work hours of the European workers was greater than that of the non-European slaves and semi-slaves at the rosy dawn of capitalism. Do you have studies comparing the numbers of person hours worked by both ? LNP: This is the main bone of contention Blaut has with Brenner. Brenner does not view slave labor as indicative of capitalist property relations. Louis Proyect (http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)