Just like to comment on some of what has been said about the role of 
the colonial trade in the industrialization of Europe; not about  the 
role of  the periphery, which is another matter. I want to thank Forstater 
for providing some of the more recent literature defending Williams's thesis, 
as I don't think arguments a la Ernest Mandel will do today. However, 
I must say that, at least on the basis of Fostater's summation, I 
find Darity's argument hardly convincing. Ajit's comment, however, is a 
serious one and I hope to pick it later on.

What follows, now and later, are slighly revised commentaries I had sent 
earlier to the wsn and world-h lists, as part of a paper I started to work on 
again recently, which  is on the 'rise of the West'.  

The idea that the colonial trade was crucial to the industrialization 
of Europe is (still) a commonly accepted claim  among world-system 
theorists and Marxists, or really, the Left in general - this, despite the 
significant statistical evidence 
already put forward against this claim. One of the strongest, 
empirical challenges goes back to O'Brien's article "European Economic 
Development: The Contribution of the Periphery" (EHR 1982), a 
well-known article which, notwithstanding Wallerstein's response to 
it in the same journal (1983), still awaits a serious answer from ws 
scholars.  Among the many claims of this article is the highly 
damaging one that, if we agree with  Bairoch's data that commodity 
trade between core and periphery amounted to no more than 4% of the 
aggregate GNP for Western Europe, and if we assume that core 
capitalists made such large profits as 50% on the trade turnover, and 
that they re-invested as high as 50% of their profits, the colonial 
profits re-invested would have amounted to only 1% og GNP, or 10% of 
gross investment.


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