Rod Hay: Are you implying that Ricardo is a Weberian on some lists (H-world and WSN) but a Marxist on Pen-L? I don't have time to dredge up his many eloquent postings in defense of Weber's theory of unique European "rationality." He might want to make the argument here himself. In any event, to say that "Jim B. keeps putting into other people's mouth is simply a fantasy of his own making" is not only insulting, uncollegial, and ungrammatical, but also a fantasy of your own making. Jim B