At 09:45 AM 10/31/00 -0600, you wrote: >Enslavement was no longer (historically!) necessary for fulfilling >conditions of >capitalism's existence and reproduction, however. I figured out why I reacted viscerally to the phrase "Enslavement was historically necessary to capitalism." A lot of old-fashioned crude Marxists of the sort that Colin seems to lump me with used to argue that _socialism_ was an historically necessary result of capitalism. It was always a BS argument. In general, there's no predetermination in history. As Isaac Deutscher noted (in his biography of Stalin?), it often happens _after the fact_ that things _look_ predetermined, historically necessary. But there were other paths that could have been taken. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
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