>Justin:
>>the classical Marxist tradition, including Marx. Although I don't agree with
>>Jim Heartfield about much, I do agree with his rejection of this strand of
>>contemporary left thought
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>
>Yes, that sort of thinking is rather widespread among ex-Marxists. It
>amounts to having your cake and eating it too.
>
>Louis Proyect
>Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org/

Neither Nestor Gorojovsky nor Jose G. Perez nor E. C. Apling nor 
Brian James nor David Welch is an "ex-Marxist," however.  There are 
_more_ people who agree with you on PEN-l & LBO-talk than on your 
list.  Those who are curious about the "debate" on the environment on 
Lou's list should check out, for instance, 
<http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=and&format=short&config=marxism_lists_panix_com&restrict=&exclude=&words=rain>.

Yoshie

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