Justin,
Believe me, I am not defending this. This
legislature and governor, to quote Al Gore,
thinks that it is facing "no controlling legal
authority."
As regards the wisecrack about virgins,
well, it has been awhile since they handed out
stickers here saying "Virginia is for lovers."
BTW, the Christian Right here has been
playing heavy handed games for quite some
time. Quite some time ago, Jerry Falwell's so-called
Liberty University was up for accreditation. A JMU
biology prof I know voted against it because of their
reluctance to allow the teaching of evolution. This
guy, a friend of mine, was soon receiving late night
phone calls threatening his life.
No, I do not welcome Dubya's "faith-based
initiatives," and I fear that Ashcroft is a sign of more
nonsense to come. A lot of people who said there
is no significant difference between Gore and Bush
may soon figure out otherwise. The Dems here in
VA were pretty conservative. But they look wonderful
compared to the lunatics and fanatics running the
show these days.
Barkley Rosser
Professor of Economics
James Madison University
Harrisonburg, VA 22807 USA
http://cob.jmu.edu/rosserjb
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:09 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:7683] Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: blowing off steam
>Yeah, I would say. There's problems with unconstitutional conditions. Btw,
>are you sure the note must be from a clergy member? That's clearly
>unconstitutional. Suppose you object to the pledge cause you are an
atheist?
>Btw, I went to primary school in VA, it may explain why I am so strange.
>--jks
>
>
>>Mat,
>> Liable to be suspended from school.
>> The original bill was even stricter, but was
>>cut back in face of its obvious unconstitutionality
>>in the face of the 1943 Supreme Court ruling on
>>this matter. A lot of people think the bill that has
>>just passed is also unconstitutional. BTW, this
>>is a followup on last year's law mandating a
>>required morning "moment of silence" in public
>>schools. There have been a lot of protests with
>>students sitting in the halls and getting into various
>>sorts of trouble.
>>Barkley Rosser
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Forstater, Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:38 PM
>>Subject: [PEN-L:7666] RE: Re: Re: blowing off steam
>>
>>
>> >so if you refuse to say the pledge (as I did when I was in 4th grade)
are
>>you
>> >breaking the law and liable to be arrested?
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:00 PM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: [PEN-L:7659] Re: Re: blowing off steam
>> >
>> >
>> > Actually the Virginia legislature, now fully dominated
>> >by the Repugs who are seriously beholden to the
>> >Christian Right are going off the deep end. The latest?
>> >They have just passed a 24-hour waiting period on
>> >abortions and also a law requiring students in high
>> >schools to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance
>> >every morning. They can only get out with a note from
>> >a clergyperson testifying to their religious or philosophical
>> >objections.
>> > The governor, recently appointed as National
>> >Chair of the Repugs, will sign both of these eagerly.
>> >Barkley Rosser
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Margaret Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:12 PM
>> >Subject: [PEN-L:7629] Re: blowing off steam
>> >
>> >
>> >>Mike reminded me of how floored I was when I heard about the Virginia
>> >>legislature passing laws about where to sleep in the house you own...
>>To
>> >>make matters even more hypocritical, Virginia is a right to work state
>>--
>> >>because unions interfere in the market place. So it's o.k. to stamp
out
>> >>living wages, but we can't have people falling asleep in front of the
TV
>>in
>> >>the living room. To add to this, right now Virginia and Maryland are
>> >>cooperating on rebuilding a bridge which is the main passage between
the
>> >>states and DC where most white Virginians work. Bushites are talking
>>about
>> >>stopping the contracting on the bridge because Virginia had to agree to
>> >>union rules which Maryland upholds. So the bushites are going to try
>>and
>> >>force Maryland to accept non-union labor in the bridge construction.
My
>> >>question is, what happened to state's rights? Why are Virginia's
states
>> >>rights to be a right to work state better than Maryland's states rights
>>to
>> >>promote unionism? Well, that's a rhetorical question. maggie coleman
>> >>
>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I just glanced at a journal of political economy article in
condemning
>> >>> mandates. Mandates are bad, except you want to force schools to get
>> >>> standardized tests. Local control is good, except when
inconveniences
>> >>> corporations. Then it has to be overruled. Individuals know what is
>> >>> best, but then Virginia legislates that people must sleep in their
>> >>> bedrooms. How do get away with such hypocrisy? And who figures out
>>the
>> >>> names of their political campaigns -- paycheck protection, death
>>taxes,
>> >>> and the like?
>> >>> --
>> >>> Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University
>>Chico,
>> >>> CA 95929
>> >>>
>> >>> Tel. 530-898-5321
>> >>> E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
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