Mark Jones wrote: >Yoshie Furuhashi says: >> >> It's best if ecosocialists focus on this aspect of the problem: toxic >> chemicals endangering workers' health. > >Is this discussion taking account of the fundamentals? > >"If just the present world population of 5.8 billion people were to live at >current North American ecological standards (say 4.5 ha/person), a >reasonable first approximation of the total productive land requirement >would be 26 billion ha (assuming present technology). However, there are >only just over 13 billion ha of land on Earth, of which only 8.8 billion are >ecologically productive cropland, pasture, or forest (1.5 ha/person). In >short, we would need an additional two planet Earths to accommodate the >increased ecological load of people alive today. If the population were to >stabilize at between 10 and 11 billion sometime in the next century, five >additional Earths would be needed, all else being equal -- and this just to >maintain the present rate of ecological decline (Rees & Wackernagel, 1994)." >http://dieoff.com/page110.htm Dieoff indeed. At least Jay Hanson, like Dave Foreman, is honest about what he sees for the future of the human population. Tell us, Mark - how many people will have to disappear, how, and by when? Doug
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